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dada78641 | 2 years ago

My personal experience is that Windows 11 for ARM runs extremely well on Parallels. It includes an emulation layer for x86 apps that's completely invisible and just works. I can even still run Cakewalk, a program originally from the 90s, on my M1 Mac to edit midi files.

With that being said, this is just my view as someone who uses simple consumer oriented programs, and I'm not sure how well it'll work for more serious purposes.

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sydbarrett74|2 years ago

Have you tried any Windows games on Apple Silicon? What kinds of Windows apps do you tend to run? I've used the macOS version of World of Warcraft on my '20 Mac Mini (16GB RAM) and even with utilities that adjust the mouse acceleration curve, I still find game play clunky. I was hoping I could run WoW under a VM and have it be somewhat performant.

solardev|2 years ago

For gaming, you want to use Crossover or the FOSS Whisky app. Parallels only runs Arm Windows which then emulates x86. This is much much slower than using Wine to translate system calls and Apple's Game Porting Toolkit to handle the Vulkan or DirectX graphics. Crossover and Whisky take care of the internals of those for you. Give those a shot, I think you'll find it much better than a full VM. In my experience some games do run better this way than the MacOS versions, though that's usually because the Mac client wasn't compiled for Apple Silicon and so Rosetta is emulating. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure WOW is already Apple Silicon native, so you probably won't get better performance this way.

Crossover is paid but has better compatibility: https://www.codeweavers.com/crossover/ (or see https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility for compatible games)

Whisky is free, and will work just as well for games it supports, but has compatibility with fewer games (no official list, so you just have to download it and try yourself): https://github.com/Whisky-App/Whisky

For the mouse stuff, try a USB mouse if you're not already using one, combined with https://github.com/ther0n/UnnaturalScrollWheels to disable acceleration and fix the scroll wheel.

That works really well for me to get a Windows-like mouse curve.

TLDR skip the emulation and go for translation layers via Crossover, Whisky, and GPT. It'll be much faster. The mouse thing is separate and has nothing to do with the graphics layer.

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Personally though, I'd just pay $20 a month for Geforce Now. It is much much faster than even the highest end Mac. I don't think WOW is on there, but for supported games, it's a phenomenal experience... sold my 3080 desktop and replaced it with GFN on my Macbook. It's fantastic.

Supported games: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/games/

swozey|2 years ago

When I first got it I tested a few games on my 2022 M1 Max 64GB 16" MBP both natively and in Windows ARM.

The only one that I remember is Crusader Kings II. It has a native MacOS version which I tried and it ran pretty rough. Very, very choppy on the map. I didn't tweak any graphics settings from the defaults and put no effort into making it run better, FWIW.

Next, I ran it via Windows ARM in Parallels. Now that I'm writing this I have no idea what I did to test it. I feel like it just ran but I don't think I did anything specific to make an x86 process run on ARM. Maybe Windows ARM does that for you, I forget.

Anyway, it ran really well. Absolutely much, much better than the native app. It felt completely smooth navigating the map, etc. I did NOT play it in a big game that lasted hundreds of years. I probably did 5 turns, mostly checking to see how smooth scrolling the map and the UI/UX stuff was.

I have a 4090'd gaming desktop so it wasn't a big deal to me to be able to game on the mac which is why I put as much effort into this as you can see. lmao.

It's amazing at everything else!

rogual|2 years ago

Not OP, but I use Parallels on M2 and gaming is a bit hit-or-miss. I'd say maybe 80% of games work flawlessly, and 20% have some sort of issue ranging from the annoying to the unplayable.

For non-gaming, Parallels is extremely solid. I use Visual Studio and various productivity apps and they all work perfectly -- although Parallels is enshittified scumware that pops up ads at every available opportunity, so if that kind of thing bothers you, it's worth considering it before buying.