We are all trained on copyrighted input. That is not a problem. What is a problem is if you reproduce it and try to claim copyright for that. If someone wants to create their own image of Mario in an AI, so what?
We are not machines. The argument that procedural text and image generators are similar to us is ridiculous. The issue is not whether people can generate images. The issue is ai companies stealing content and reselling it. That needs to stop.
> The argument that procedural text and image generators are similar to us is ridiculous.
Agreed. The amount of endless whataboutisms AI proponents have to continuously invent around comparing humans and AI machines as having 'similar' characteristics to justify mass copyright violation is just absolutely laughable.
> The issue is ai companies stealing content and reselling it.
The key point here is the 'reselling' part, without credit, attribution or permission to do so and then claiming the creation as one's own. The fact that these AI companies won't disclose their training data, tells us that they know they are in deep trouble. The so-called 'fair use' excuses isn't going to work this time.
Given that Apple paid news orgs to train on their licensed data, the lawsuit with the NYT should not be a surprise for OpenAI and Microsoft (as they knew that they needed to pay for a license to access and train on the data) and will eventually end with a licensing deal with the NYT.
gumballindie|2 years ago
rvz|2 years ago
Agreed. The amount of endless whataboutisms AI proponents have to continuously invent around comparing humans and AI machines as having 'similar' characteristics to justify mass copyright violation is just absolutely laughable.
> The issue is ai companies stealing content and reselling it.
The key point here is the 'reselling' part, without credit, attribution or permission to do so and then claiming the creation as one's own. The fact that these AI companies won't disclose their training data, tells us that they know they are in deep trouble. The so-called 'fair use' excuses isn't going to work this time.
Given that Apple paid news orgs to train on their licensed data, the lawsuit with the NYT should not be a surprise for OpenAI and Microsoft (as they knew that they needed to pay for a license to access and train on the data) and will eventually end with a licensing deal with the NYT.