[gauravphoenix]

that's all good but does it have FSD?

Jokes aside, it is enlightening to see how far we have come. Just 10 years ago, seeing a Tesla in SF bay area would be a topic of conversation. Today, I have two Teslas parked in my garage and yesterday when we went for a NYE party, 80% of the attendees drove Tesla (or Tesla drove them ;)

[phyzome]

No, but the horseful carriage did.

[FooBarBizBazz]

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/rats-will-drive-ti...

[ronnier]

Same, I also have two Teslas. 21 Y and a 23 S Plaid. What an experience to drive every day, absolutely love both of them.

[tirant]

What’s special about driving a Tesla that makes the experience remarkable ? I’ve test driven recent Model 3 and Model Ys and found the experience subpar compared to other EVs: noisy, uncomfortable suspension, lack of parking assistant systems, lack of reliable speed limit recognition and lane keeping assistant system, no matrix headlights or even HUD. Basically every new technology you can have in new mid/high range cars compares to my old 2008 VW Golf is missing on modern Model 3/Ys. I loved the spacious interior, but felt also cheap. The UI of the screen is also very nice and smooth, but I still prefer using Apple CarPlay. People compliment Tesla supercharger network, and I have to admit I’ve never used it, but I also have to say I never had an issue with other HPC networks like Ionity or Fastned in Europe.

[loceng]

Arguably the sole reason the industry has come so far is because of Elon Musk not toeing the industrial complex line, of which clearly has attempted to suppress EV - whether was the status quo administrators-operators who weren't competent or compelled to create good enough disruptive technology - or it was mostly the oil industry attempting to squash it.

I don't predict EVs will completely takeover though, as there is major distrust now of most governments and the one world order that seems to be attempting to form, and the highly dense energy of easily transportation gasoline is an obvious way to not be dependant on an easily controlled-captured power grid.

[recursive]

It seems easier to get an EV charger off grid than a ICE refueling. Gasoline relies on refineries. You can charge your EV from solar panels at your secret hidden mountain lair.

[RetroTechie]

You got that reversed: EVs match well with off-grid / decentralized power generation like solar.

ICE vehicles otoh depend on gas stations & all the infrastructure behind those. Yes they're still everywhere & you have range, but sooner or later you have to visit one. Only exeption are engines that take fuels like plant oils (some diesel engines) or perhaps ethanol.

[jackjeff]

Considered how expensive EVs are and since they can’t do simple things like airport return trips, I predict that gas guzzlers still have a long life ahead of them.

I know EVs will get cheaper. But there’s no chance they’ll ever be as inexpensive as the cheap gasoline cars that some people can barely afford today. It’s unavoidable for car ownership to go down on the long run.

It may not be such a bad thing to have more public transport or car sharing schemes though… but in the mean time expect disenfranchised people to vote for populists candidates that go against EV policies, hence slowing down adoption.

The tail end of EV adoption will be a lot longer than people think in opinion.

My guess is 20 years for 2/3 cars to be EVs. 10 years for new cars and another 10 for the second hand market.

It took about 10 years for SUVs to become the de facto car form factor. So I see a similar adoption here.