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yoshamano | 2 years ago

As a 40 year old "institutionalized" laborer at the bottom of the IT pyramid I also cannot envision such a life. What does that time look like where my needs are met without having to sell my labor? Is it through a violent overthrowing of the systems of capitalism? Is it through the less violent revolution of Universal Basic Income? Or do we need to subvert capitalism from the other end with post-scarcity economics where energy is free and abundant. Or will post-scarcity only happen with free energy and some sort of Star Trek'esq replicator.

What I CAN envision is my labor becoming worthless. A level of worthless that no amount of education or personal character could make valuable again.

Its great to talk about not having to work. The mechanics of how we get there typically amount to hand-waving magic. Which if that is how we get there then I also want a pony.

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cf1241290841|2 years ago

The jobs that currently make up the bulk of the GDP produced by humans will be hit by automation hard. And we already scraped the bottom of the employment barrel with stuff like uber eats.

At this point i am more curious how people envision a continuation of the work week as is. Especially with an explosion of noncommercial innovation by individuals who can now do what took companies teams and years¹. Are we going to dig trenches and fill them back up to keep people from making existing business models build on planed obsolesce disappear? Even that is doubtful given the lower barrier of entry thanks to technological progress.

¹ https://github.com/circuitvalley/USB_C_Industrial_Camera_FPG...

Edit: Giving you a pony is not that expensive btw. Especially with a lot of people likely building stables given enough free time. And you ordering one a year in advance producing plan-ability. Reducing costs and profit at the same time is just killer for the economy as is.

Creating demand for pony supplies might soon be the best thing you can do for the economy with your time.

Edit1: Having looked at pony prices, it seems i can get you a pony in 2025 if you want one. Show me some pictures how you are going to keep it, financing plan for its upkeep and character witnesses for you treating it well and i should be able to get you a pony.