Microsoft Copilot iOS App

[2Gkashmiri]

What is with Facebook and Microsoft ?

I recently installed Facebook messenger on android and it literally had ads in the chat list itself. Yuck.

Same for Microsoft. At least I don't have to use any ms product but everything has ads now ?? Why ?

[donor20]

Having just fought a vendor for months to cancel a service - how do others not realize that long term the apple approach that builds trust will actually pay off?

We had three people working to get cancellation done. Customer service / billing / tickets / emails and more. It was ridiculous. The only person who could cancel was a salesperson we’d never worked with who would NOT respond to calls and emails. And we pay this vendor 75,000+!

Every time windows pro jams “search suggestions” and other crap in via notifications and elsewhere I just roll my eyes

[notatoad]

people don't like paying money for things.

if you're willing to pay, the chatGPT app is going to be a better experience. the only reason to use the copilot app is to get gpt4 for free. and that means ads.

[aethros]

For a while I used FB Messenger Lite, which was basically designed for low-bandwidth markets (read: not US) but came without any sort of bloat. Sadly they recently deprecated it, which forced me to switch. It seems like these companies feel the need to put ads everywhere--at some point I'd imagine some users will just stop using tools that are too bloated.

[butlike]

Because you don't pay $20/mo. for GPT? The compute isn't free...

[therealpygon]

Obviously, people need to pay for record profits somehow…

[huytersd]

It’s pretty smelly. They probably don’t even make all that much from those specific ads but it makes the application/system feel completely cheap.

[FirmwareBurner]

Let me get this straight. You're complaining that free web services you're not paying for with money, have ads in them? How do you expect them to pay for the infrastructure and dev wages without ad money? What exctly do you expect?

@downvoters: seriously? you're donvoting someone for stating the bleeding obvious?

[gorbypark]

Has anyone been able to login to the app? The sign in button does nothing when I click on it, and the sign in link in the "default chat" just takes me to a blank page. It's been like this for 2 days now. I'm somewhat assuming it's a weird regional behaviour...my Apple account is based in Canada but I am physically in Europe. Is this not available in Europe, and it's tripping out since I'm connecting from a European IP?

[ace2358]

I’ve noticed that iCloud private relay messes with things sometimes. Website that claim I have to prove my identity time and time again aren’t uncommon. I have to turn it off to get them to work. Could that be affecting you?

[butlike]

It's probably just growing pains with iOS stuff and will work eventually

[cpressland]

Works fine here (UK), just takes me straight to login.microsoftonline.com.

[firecall]

I signed in with no problems using my MS account.

[unsupp0rted]

Weird text input box. It doesn’t auto-capitalize new sentences? I wonder what that box is doing in the background with every word I type.

[jamesdwilson]

Spawning a new Microsoft Edge ® process, powered by Microsoft Bing ™.

So remember, next time you Google something, Google it with Bing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYVCk10AzS0

[taspeotis]

ChatGPT is actually just Sam Altman

https://twitter.com/sama

[corobo]

Anyone know if this is something that has changed in iOS?

I've noticed that Twitch chat in their iOS app no longer capitalises sentences recently too.

[ryanSrich]

Anyone tested this against perplexity yet? I assume it's more or less attempting to compete with that as opposed to ChatGPT.

[borg16]

has anyone done a comparison of gpt-4 vs. the gpt-4 that microsoft says is being included in most of it's products these days?

I want to say they both aren't exactly the same, as I noticed through some responses to same questions by each, but I am interested in a detailed analysis if anyone has done that.

[vitorgrs]

It's a finetuned version of GPT4 for some scenarios (more chatty, with "Sydney" personality).

They are testing GPT4-Turbo, which seems to be closer (or the same) to ChatGPT style and quality of answer. But there will be a new, separated option to enable "Sydney".

Worth to point out that Balanced is not running pure GPT4. It runs multiple models. Only Creative/Precise runs GPT4 only.

[sebazzz]

> I want to say they both aren't exactly the same, as I noticed through some responses to same questions by each, but I am interested in a detailed analysis if anyone has done that.

That is very well possible and can be due to one of the many parameters of the LLM being different, like the temperature for instance.

[alicanK]

So we don’t need chatgpt anymore? 30 daily limit is pretty enough for my needs.

[alpb]

I think this app biases towards searching online, which is very different than what ChatGPT does. Similarly it can’t do data analysis or equivalent Dall-e image generation. But yeah it can go a long way?

[vitorgrs]

The daily limit is 300. It's 30 per conversation. It was actually unlimited before. They limited because on long conversations it gets "unaligned".

[thorum]

Wonder how much longer Poe app can hold out against this kind of competition.

[Alifatisk]

They have two other apps that features this aswell on the appstore.

- Bing Ai app - Start app

[vitorgrs]

Weather app too...

[Havoc]

Would think that OpenAI would need to drop pricing soon then. Or release v5 I guess.

Charging 20 bucks for something available for free somewhere else is a little spicy

[vanjajaja1]

I keep asking myself why I pay... copilot ios did seem a bit busy and slow, but i'm close to ending my chatgpt at this rate

[WarOnPrivacy]

My complaint with Copilot in Windows is MS's intent that CP eventually be ingratiated into every task, ostensibly to always be ready to jump in and help.

This will just coincidentally enable collection of massive amounts of new telemetery, as CP extends it's vigilance into absolutely everything users do.

I can't imagine MS won't do all it can to achieve this same level of invasiveness in Apple ecosystems, if it possibly can.

[edgyquant]

Boy that acronym really threw me off