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publicprivacy | 2 years ago

Thank you all for your perspective, and suggestions.

I was on a bad psychedelic trip, accompanied with some other issues at the time and ending up making threatening statements to a very high level official, but no battery occurred whatsoever. Thank goodness, or I would probably not be writing this message

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gnfargbl|2 years ago

The challenge here is your choice of specialism. Security is fundamentally a trust-based business and the industry is pretty wary of anyone with a perceived black mark against them. The reasons for this are mainly liability ("if this guy does something wrong and he already has a record, how will we look?") and reputation ("what will our government customers think about us if we hire this person?").

Could/would you consider a sideways step to something less directly security based? For instance there might be data engineering roles that might suit.

jstarfish|2 years ago

My experience is different. I'm not a felon but I come across them in the workplace fairly often as an internal investigator. We have infosec personnel working for us with nonviolent sex offender convictions who also maintain security clearances (defense contractor). Life does not end with a conviction; don't wear a sandwich board broadcasting it but honesty goes a long way. It's the lies that I'll eventually hang you with.

Go west if you can. If you're on the east coast it's hell. The "liability" concerns are (IME) a pervasive east-coast racist myth from the 60s, but it's a real threat. The same justification was used to expand routine drug screening from forklift operators and truck drivers to keyboard jockeys. Equifax did drug testing of white-collar employees and did not hire criminals; so much for their liability and reputation following the worst data breach in history. It's all bullshit; both justifications are veiled cause to not hire blacks.

Mind your co-workers inclined to cyberstalk everyone around them and using your skeletons to raise PR hell to advance their own career. We've unfortunately thrown employees under the bus due to public outcry. Social "justice" in action! (What was the prison sentence for, if not justice...?)

pyuser583|2 years ago

The point of security is to remove trust as a requirement.

Poster could say, “you don’t need to trust me, that’s the point of {insert product or service}”.

x0x0|2 years ago

You could also consider working as a consultant or external pen tester. When we hired our pen testers, we did not run background checks on them, not least because they have no access to customer data so it's much less of a concern.

zamadatix|2 years ago

If the people you're paying to find weaknesses in the security system are assuredly never going to find a way to access internal data then how did you conclude you needed a pen tester in the first place? I mean, it's probably the right conclusion but only precisely because they'd find a way to access things they shouldn't be able to.

runjake|2 years ago

You said in your post it was not drug-related, but here you say it was a bad psychedelic trip. Which is true?

publicprivacy|2 years ago

I meant drug sales, thank you I updated

alumnumn|2 years ago

“Gotcha! No hire!”

foooobaba|2 years ago

You should try to petition your state governor office to get the felony removed. It is a long time consuming process and will likely need help from a lawyer, but I have friends that have successfully gotten their felony removed after several years of diligently trying again, and of course good behavior in the mean time. It may never happen, but might as well give it a shot, it can’t hurt.