[not_me_ever]

Amazing work, but those salary numbers feel off.

Background: I've been a IT hiring manager for 20+ years now, with about 600 hires (and salary negotiations) in total. About 70% gamedev related, and the other 30% classic IT.

I have tracked all those numbers over the last 20 years. They are 50-100% higher across the board; And that is base salary on-hire, without bonuses.

A senior developer for 60K? Show me, and I'll hire 10. Make that 20. On the spot.

Last year I hired a graduate in Bulgaria for 80K/year base(!) salary. Granted, he was the best of his year, and had some nice side projects.

According to your numbers I should not exist. I started my career in the 90s, and never earned below 60K/year.

I suspect something might be off with your sample selection. Or maybe people are just under reporting their numbers. Not saying you are intentionally misleading, but these numbers just don't compute.

[throwaway63467]

So you say 120-160 T€ base salary for good senior developers is normal in Germany? Where’s that, do you have any company names?

[not_me_ever]

I am saying 90K+ for seniors is what I have seen, and 60K+ for juniors. "Normal" is a bit hard to define, and there will always be wide deviations, but the averages, and ranges in that doc just don't match my numbers.

Written offers I got in the last 3 years: M$ - 140K. IBM 120K, 160K & 180K. Amazon 150K Google 80K & 250K (yes, I know :eyeroll:) All their salary bands are public.

A lot of the smaller companies pay extremely well too. And no, not going to give out names, as they are swamped in CVs already.

I am currently at 120K, for 20h per week (2days/3days alternating). Currently hiring for a small startup, and everybody I interviewed asked for 100K+, and that is with shares on top.