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TobyTheDog123 | 2 years ago

I feel like a lot of the comments here are said ironically but would actually be wonderful for much of society.

Very tired of the libertarian arguments when they obviously don't work.

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huytersd|2 years ago

Libertarianism doesn’t work as much as communism doesn’t work.

harimau777|2 years ago

From history, we mainly know that nation scale communism doesn't work when it is run by a totalitarian government and/or is undermined by the embargos or the CIA. We don't have much data on democratic communism that is reasonably free from outside interference.

On the other hand, we know that communism works on the small scale due to the success of various traditional communities and non-profits.

Depending on the specific system being discussed, there's also significant evidence that "more moderate" systems related to communism (e.g. various forms of socialism) work. Part of the problem that I've had in trying to interact with libertarian ideas is that they tend to be purist. In particular, when confronted with criticisms they tend to claim that under a complete libertarian system they wouldn't occur. However, that precludes the ability to consider whether an incomplete libertarian system might have merit.

t0bia_s|2 years ago

Apparently tribalism works.

TobyTheDog123|2 years ago

I think those are two different scales.

Libertarianism <---> Authoritarianism

Capitalism <---> Communism

Usually the sweet spot is somewhere in the middle of both, which is what the United States is (though some may argue we've begun to slide towards the extremes)

Kuinox|2 years ago

There are others things than libertarianism and communism. Why picking it as an example?