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BorgHunter | 2 years ago

> The benefits of the current system are enormous, incomprehensibly enormous.

Sure. What are the drawbacks? Where are the opportunities for improvement?

Also, you provided a list of things we enjoy today that you're presumably attributing to capitalism. But clean water and roads are usually provided by governments, and electricity and garbage collection (in the US) are generally in a weird liminal space where it's usually corporations but they're heavily regulated (and there's usually some political corruption at the interface between the corporations and the regulators). Our modern food distribution system is a marvel, but it depends on the exploitation of a poorly paid underclass of often undocumented migrant workers to do much of the farm labor. And video games are nice, although some corporations are trying to turn video games into weird casinos (see: lootboxes).

Claiming that the status quo is great and critics are being merely self-interested is deliberately turning a blind eye to the many drawbacks, flaws, and areas that can be improved with the current system. "We have clean water now; DO YOU HATE CLEAN WATER?!" is a disingenuous, bad faith argument. It's the "We should improve society somewhat" comic.

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throw__away7391|2 years ago

The status quo is that the quality of life for nearly everyone in the planet is improving faster than it ever has before in history and the rate of the improvement is accelerating as well.

I am living in a country which currently has a “socialist” government who have made a big show recently of implementing anti-capitalist policies to stick it to the greedy rich. We do not have clean water. I need to buy bottled water for drinking/cooking. The situation is getting worse as these policies come into effect. The government can’t do shit without someone to pay for it.

This is a fantasy land where you take your pick of attributes from different countries and pretend you can have all the things you want without giving anything up and all the money is going to come from other people.

The situation is like the anti-vaxers living in a protected bubble while simultaneously blaming it for all their problems.