[ryanklee]

Imagine being an actual woman and having to deal with this bullshit all the fucking time. I have no idea how the hell they do it. Must be low-level torture.

[kylebenzle]

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[nozzlegear]

> I've asked out wait staff at restaurants, bar tenders, even co-workers with some success based on little more than them being nice or attractive

These people generally aren’t being nice to you because they reciprocate, they’re being nice because it’s their job. Asking them out while they’re working is awkward for everyone involved. Worse, it can make them feel pressured to let you down gently or give you the false impression that they’re interested if only they weren’t currently in a relationship.

[shepherdjerred]

> all women have to do is ignore or deny the advance, how is that "dealing with bullshit"?

Most men are decent, but plenty of men are aggressive, scary, or make women very uncomfortable.

If you ask someone out respectfully, of course that's fine. If you're not taking no for an answer, being hostile, or making someone feel very uncomfortable/unsafe, then you're not doing the right thing.

[shrugthug]

> sometimes a woman just being nice to a man is enough for him to see an "opening" and ask her out

Being nice to people in the workplace is part of being a professional, especially for jobs that may rely on tips.

[anigbrowl]

how do you expect couples to form and human to procreate?

This is what parties and other social activities are for.

[theshackleford]

I've managed to couple without harrasing people doing their job over the internet (bot or not) so obviously it can be done.

[bugglebeetle]

Someone who pesters waitresses to ensure the procreation of the human race is an argument against why that should occur.

[financltravsty]

I'll +1 this, in spite of the overwhelming negative reception. Sometimes the vibe is right. Usually, people just want to get on with their lives and not be propositioned; but sometimes the chemistry is there -- and what is a person to do?

[jrflowers]

> I think you are being sarcastic, at least I hope so, otherwise, unless you are 100% abstinent, how do you expect couples to form and human to procreate? If you really are this uninformed, the way it works 99% of the time, men ask out women they are attracted to, sometimes a woman just being nice to a man is enough for him to see an "opening" and ask her out.

>I've asked out wait staff at restaurants, bar tenders, even co-workers with some success based on little more than them being nice or attractive, this is how our species reproduces, if its "bullshit" for anyone its men getting the short end of the stick, all women have to do is ignore or deny the advance, how is that "dealing with bullshit"?

You make a good point. You have personally asked out women based off them being nice or attractive, therefore it cannot be a source of irritation. It cannot have been unpleasant if kylebenzel does it

[wolverine876]

Imagine if women behaved this way toward men. Before making the obvious snarky remarks, step back and think about how unpleasant that would be, as well as distracting from doing actual work, degrading (they aren't taking you seriously as a professional, just as a f-k), etc.

[ozfive]

I'm sorry, what world do you live in? As a server, women were extremely crass and inappropriate with me all of the time and it wasn't nice at all for me. I am also not the type to be that kind of guy so it was very jarring for me to experience.

[kylebenzle]

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