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walnutclosefarm | 2 years ago

I think the bar for what constitutes unacceptable outside of work behavior changes significantly as you move up the responsibility ladder. Once you are in any significant leadership position where credibility and moral authority matter, doing things that land you on the front page in situations that make you look highly partisan, or immoral, or just plain stupid, in the eyes of much of your constituency - employees, customers, or community - is a real tax on your ability to lead. It justifies firing. And, to be clear, if Gow really thinks his porn appearances don't impair him in his job as university Chancellor in small Wisconsin city, he's probably also too social judgement impaired for the job anyway. Chancellor is not a back-office job.

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voakbasda|2 years ago

Sex is not immoral. Fuck everyone who thinks it is and imposes that belief on others. People who impose those beliefs on others as a tool to ruin lives and careers should be in prison.

davidguetta|2 years ago

Depends on your definition of moral. In my book what is moral is what is an action or an attitude which is good for the whole society or at least living well in society.

The problem with sex is that its nature is EXCLUSIONNARY: sexual desire is made in part to discriminate who is the more fit or not to reproduce, especially among males. Historically only 60% men reproduced and 80% women... A HUGE LOT of people and especially men are not accesing sex on a regular basis.

In that sense you can't say porn / OF etcc are 'moral' in any way shape of form I think. There are actually many places in the world / religions that promote the idea that REGULATING sex (especially women's sex life) is the MORAL thing (since it allow a 'better' repartition of sex and reproduction in the society, especially for men).

I don't agree with any of it (and 100% share your point of view), but it's important to discuss the underlying reasons of what you observe in societies.. at least to better fight it.

skidd0|2 years ago

Sounds like you want to impose your beliefs on others through threats of ruining lives and careers via the prison system... seems hypocritical to your otherwise live and let live (fuck and let fuck?) position.

Levitz|2 years ago

Porn is about the commodification of sex though, not about sex itself. You are also giving the worst interpretation possible, arguing it's "a tool to ruin lives and careers", which is very much not the point.

Retric|2 years ago

> if Gow really thinks …

The article makes it clear that isn’t the case. Anyway, the issue is much broader than just porn. Every additional constraint you add on a job means the people leftover are somewhat less competent at their actual job.

Google for example is stuck with worse programmers due to their hazing stile interviews meaning many of the best either don’t apply or get falsely rejected. For companies this this isn’t such a big deal, but it helps explain why political parties rarely pick candidates that people really want to vote for.

bell-cot|2 years ago

> if Gow really thinks his porn appearances don't impair him in his job as university Chancellor in small Wisconsin city, he's probably also too social judgement impaired for the job anyway.

YES, this - but 's/probably also too/obviously far too/'.

Plus - recent legal settlements in university sex scandal cases are getting into the 1/2 billion dollar league. Nobody responsible for university finances, however libertine they might privately be, would want a flaming-red-flag idiot like this to be allowed anywhere near their students, staff, or campus.

hutzlibu|2 years ago

"if Gow really thinks his porn appearances don't impair him in his job as university Chancellor in small Wisconsin city, he's probably also too social judgement impaired for the job anyway."

He clearly stated, he was aware of it:

"We think our sex is beautiful and have no qualms at all about other people watching us make love,” they wrote. “But our establishment colleagues likely would be shocked … and we’re fairly certain we’d be shunned in our community. Our careers likely would be ruined.”"

He simply thinks it should be allright and accepted behavior even for a university chancellor and I agree with that.