[monospaced]

> In a follow-up post a day after his initial Tweet, Johnie noted “inaccuracy in the ASUS router tool.” Other LG smart washing machine users showed device data use from their apps. It turns out that these appliances more typically use less than 1MB per day.

[ParetoOptimal]

Other users having low data usage doesn't prove they also have low usage?

Are people so uncomfortable saying "we don't know" that they use such loose reasoning to "get the answer"?

I'll re-read the article/tweets, maybe I missed something.

[Aurornis]

> Other users having low data usage doesn't prove they also have low usage?

The follow-up Tweet is from the same person who reported the initial issue.

This happens a lot: Devices get a new IP address but some tool has an internal database that remembers the old device at that address. It then shows stats for the new device at that IP address but reports it as coming from whatever it was initially recognized as.

[Kranar]

Why are you ignoring that the person who made the original claim about 3.7 GB of data per day stated that it could be an accuracy issue with his router?

[yakz]

My Ubiquiti UniFi UDM is not good at device identification. It's kind of annoying because I have this big list of devices on the network and it's peppered with devices that I know don't exist. I'd appreciate it if it said something like "Maybe iPad Air", instead of just "iPad Pro 2nd Gen" when I know no such device is on my network.

[stock_toaster]

ios devices (unsure about android) use random MACs on wireless networks by default.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102509

[Saris]

Most personal devices now use randomized MACs so it's hard to ID them.

You can go via IP though, pull up your DHCP lease on your phone/laptop/whatever and match it to the same IP in Unifi, then manually name the device.

[neilv]

Do the UniFi products just try to use MAC addrs for this, or do passive/active TCP/IP fingerprinting?

[Gyrantula2]

Occasionally it's fun to discover new devices.

"It thinks my WiFi dog feeder is a Technoelectrocom 56XR-2000? What the hell is (was) that?"

[NelsonMinar]

The traffic stats my UDM shows are complete fiction. The data it presents makes no sense.

[wkat4242]

You can fix this by setting fixed IPs. But yes Unifi is not great at this.

[nubinetwork]

Cisco ISE thinks all iPhones are FreeBSD.

[Johnie]

Note: that was inaccurately reported in the TomsHardware article

The fact that it shows up as using iMessage is the part that I said may be inaccurately reported.

Even now, I am still seeing some suspicious data usage. I’ve started wiresharking it yesterday to track it down.

[cratermoon]

A megabyte a day still seems excessive.

[dgrin91]

If you agree to some form of anonymous tracking for diagnostics I can see 1mb being reasonable. This would be periodic update on things like usage levels, part quality, etc.

Most likely that tracking acceptance is buried in some 500 page eula, but thats a separate issue.

[gberger]

It's 12 bytes per second, or less than 1kB per minute. Doesn't seem like much.

[penneyd]

Just checked mine which is used all the time and it's about 1.5mb per week.

[jstummbillig]

It seems completely inconsequential

[monkburger]

Ah! I should have read a little further. I apologize!