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starbase | 2 years ago

Realistic take: your 400 mile range EV runs ~300 in the dead of winter. Your 300 mile EV runs ~230 miles.

If you drive less than 200-300 miles per day, you plug in at night and never worry.

Took me a full year to stop worrying about it. Was always doing the range math in my head.

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blcknight|2 years ago

Until you need to do a road trip. I hated it. Non-Tesla charging networks are perpetually broken and few and far between in more rural areas. Going from MA to NH or VT was always nervewracking as they became just barely in reach in winter. I know it will get better (especially once everyone is on NACS), but it’s pretty tough out there now.

MochaDen|2 years ago

Hopefully this will just get better and better as charging networks improve, as batteries improve, and charging technology improves. We're already seeing some good steps in all these areas.

hardware2win|2 years ago

Only 25% reduction?

Ive seen people complain in eastern eu about 50% drop

8fingerlouie|2 years ago

It depends A LOT on car, battery make, and temperature.

For temperatures above -10C (14F), a car with heat pump will typically have a range drop of 20-30%, where a car without heat pump will have a somewhat higher range drop, but when temperatures go below that, the heat pump becomes increasingly less efficient.

Some cars will back a backup PTC heater, where others, like (recent) Tesla Model 3/Y/S will run a motor to generate "waste" heat.

Some cars will also scavenge waste heat from the battery, while others cannot.

Some personal experiences in -15C (5F) is that Tesla Model Y LR loses about 25% range, where a VW ID.4 Pro loses closer to 40% range, despite having a heat pump. Ranges are measured on the same stretch including city driving and highway driving.