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overboard2 | 2 years ago

If you were poor, you'd be carjacking people?

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jampekka|2 years ago

Quite possibly, especially if I'd be born into poverty. I gather you are quite sure you wouldn't?

johnmaguire|2 years ago

This looks like a ridiculous strawman's argument. For example, there's a large difference between stealing food from a produce stand (which I would certainly do if the alternative was to starve) and "carjacking people."

I agree with the OP - as a society, we should look more at aligning incentives rather than instilling morals.

Another huge area this comes up is the war on drugs - if you're caught with drugs, we slap you with a felony that ensures you can't get a real job... pushing you right back to drugs.

Jiro|2 years ago

>if you're caught with drugs, we slap you with a felony that ensures you can't get a real job... pushing you right back to drugs.

I could say the same thing for any sort of crime. If you're an accountant, and you get put in jail for embezzling, that conviction is going to prevent you from getting another job as an accountant.

While there have been a few controversies about jobs that the law excludes felons from, in a lot of cases there's nothing preventing you from hiring a felony drug criminal. If you personally are fine with drugs and you think that committing the crime doesn't make him a danger to your business, go ahead and hire him. If you won't, it isn't the conviction that's keeping him from being hired, it's the crime; the conviction just lets you know that he committed a crime.

tored|2 years ago

Why don’t thieves stop being thieves after they can afford food?