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TotoHorner | 2 years ago

Lol when the iPhone came out, literally everyone was criticizing it for how expensive it was.

Also, looking at the functionality it had when it first came out, it wouldn't have really been very useful for me (no app store, basically just an iPod + shitty browser + phone).

Anyway, does anyone actually think that VR isn't going to revolutionize computing over the next 10 years?

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supafastcoder|2 years ago

> shitty browser

Well, well, even the iOS Safari that shipped with the first iPhone was miles ahead of anything else out there.

godzillabrennus|2 years ago

People who used a blackberry can understand how big of a jump the iPhone was for mobile browsing.

Fnoord|2 years ago

Fennec (Mozilla Firefox for Mobile) was already a thing before iPhone was released.

The distortion here is that capacitive touch took on with iPhone release. Which lead to a surge of websites supporting such (albeit usually optimized for iPhone/iOS + Safari).

tiahura|2 years ago

Opera on Windows Mobile?

TotoHorner|2 years ago

Sure, I just meant compared to what we have today.

c-cube|2 years ago

Absolutely, I don't believe VR will revolutionize computing in the next 10 years. It already has had two chances of doing so. Like 3D screens it has a wow effect but isn't that much better given its very real downsides.

ghaff|2 years ago

Video conferencing using existing equipment and connections is arguably just about the only more immersive virtual experience that has really taken off. And that was somewhat forced on people and plenty here are still "FU. I'm not turning my camera on" in a work context as it is.

We can conceive of other uses but turns out that you can either get most of the way there for far less money and effort and/or the market for "spare no expense" is tiny.

goosedragons|2 years ago

When the iPhone came out they lowered the price by 1/3rd 3 months later. This brought it in-line with Palm/Windows/Blackberry handsets. The browser was also really incredible compared to other phones/devices at the time.

Hamuko|2 years ago

I think the fundamental problem of the Apple Vision Pro as it stands is that you can't put it in your pocket like the iPhone. It's also a lot more awkward to put in a shoulder bag than the iPad is, and the iPad hasn't exactly revolutionised computing either.

jltsiren|2 years ago

When the iPhone came out, people criticized it for the lack of keyboard and 3G. The price was similar to other premium phones of the time.

VR has always been about to revolutionize computing in the next n years. The technology has been available for decades, but so far nobody has been able to find good mainstream use cases for it.

zone411|2 years ago

How has the technology been available for decades? There are many requirements for useful headsets beyond just strapping a low-resolution screen to each eye. Even the Vision Pro at $3500+ isn't quite there yet: it's heavy, external battery with a short battery life, has a limited field of view.

LeifCarrotson|2 years ago

I do think this is going to be similar to the iPhone launch in 10-20 years. The VR headsets that we have in 2035 will be useful, affordable, and revolutionary.

But this is not yet that.

astrange|2 years ago

> Anyway, does anyone actually think that VR isn't going to revolutionize computing over the next 10 years?

Well, Apple doesn't think so, since they're careful to call it a spatial computer and not a VR device.

TotoHorner|2 years ago

What? No, they're calling it a spatial computer because they don't want it to be lumped in the same category as the other VR devices. Because... theirs is $3500 while other VR devices are $400.

They literally just built a VR headset... do you seriously not think the Apple Vision Pro is a VR headset?