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elheffe80 | 2 years ago

In the US we also have the largest park system that is quite cheap/free. Not every area is covered with parks, but there are enough green spaces within a short distance (less than 1 hour) that exploring should be possible. Further, a lot of people will let you go on their land if you ask them and are polite about your time on their land. Regardless- I agree that we do not have it as fun as they do in the UK and some other areas that treat land like they do.

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trgn|2 years ago

> there are enough green spaces

that's the point. America has green spaces, UK has country side, terroir if you will.

A green space is a delineated, commoditized destination. Drive there, park there, do your thing, go back. A country-side can be enjoyed through osmosis, even when living in the city.

They're qualitatively different.

hickelpickle|2 years ago

There are also 300,000 square miles of national forest/grasslands which is 3x the size of the UK. All of which is freely available with the right to dispersed camping for up to 14 days at one spot, after which you must move camp 5 miles to camp more.

Opinions on property rights aside there is no lack of land to explore and enjoy.

Aside from there there are also state parks and forests, though the states define their own terms of use and enjoyment around them.

beauzero|2 years ago

This has been the hardest adjustment for me moving from Montana to the deep South. The south has definite advantages for me at this point. Stability, easier growing crops and animals, better infrastructure, etc. But not being able to just walk all over the place is hard. It was a lot easier to get away and I definitely feel claustrophobic (some of it is no mountains). I know opportunities here are better for my family but I miss home.

Solvency|2 years ago

Let's also not forget BLM land, where Americans can and do load up a F150 Raptor and run 90 mph across the desert, camping anywhere they want, shooting semiautomatic rifles into the air freely, living out their freedom fever dreams. Try doing that in the UK.

bombcar|2 years ago

BLM land is a million square kilometers. That's about ten times the size of the UK.

There is something to be said for the UK traipsing laws from time immemorial - because you can explore something other than a million square kilometers of mostly unused land.

samschooler|2 years ago

This is what I'm doing this weekend. I'm not even joking, headed to Moab.

harimau777|2 years ago

It seems to me that the difference is that public land and national parks are more or less devoid of people while countryside is a combination of nature and people. There's lots of nature to explore but it's full of ancient cemeteries, small communities, farms, hills with various legends attached to them, etc.

To me there has to be the people to give the nature significance. Otherwise it's not so much exploration as it is just a massive camping trip.