[Aqueous]

Not buying it. Tesla has a huge share of a growing pie. They will continue to grow as the EV market grows. While I agree that the past few months were not good, the long-term outlook for EVs is positive and therefore Tesla's outlook is positive.

Just because we have all decided we hate Elon Musk doesn't mean everything he has done is bad and destined to fail.

[gregoriol]

Being first doesn't necessarily make a good outcome. Leadership is the most important to keep it going. Many incredible companies/products have failed as soon as leadership has failed. Musk is more and more worrying investors and customers. It doesn't mean it's going to fail, but it leaves more and more space to.

[electric_mayhem]

It’s not destined to fail. But Elon’s jumping the shark has absolutely harmed Tesla sales.

Personal anecdote: I got into the Tesla ecosystem with a model 3. All it took was one test drive and I was sold.

I went on to buy solar and powerwalls, because their prices were literally a fraction of every one of the six local solar companies I got quotes from. Heck, solar plus 3 powerwalls cost the same as just solar from the local clowns.

To your point that not everything they do is destined to fail: I’m still considering getting a couple more powerwalls because with tax incentives and utility rebates they’re a staggeringly good deal. And no one can see the Tesla logos in my basement.

But not only have musk’s idiot antics welded my wallet shut when it comes to not buying another Tesla car, I’ve got a set of emblems from a Mazda 3 to replace the Tesla badges on the one I’ve already got so I can stop feeling embarrassed to be implicitly advertising for them everywhere I drive. The alternative to the badges was a bumper sticker I once saw which said something like “I bought this before Elon jumped the shark”.

[stephenitis]

Putting Mazda Emblems on a Tesla is sort of embarrassing. Just debadge your car.

I'm in the DC Metro MD VA area and Teslas feel as common as civics now.