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aurelien_gasser | 2 years ago

> Hamas killed fewer people than Israel did/is

That's an understatement, Hamas killed less than 1,000 civilians, Israel killed 20,000+

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gafferongames|2 years ago

Hamas directly and intentionally targeted civilians. Israel is doing what it can to limit civilian casualties while destroying Hamas. Hamas is making that very difficult by blending in with the population, putting command centers under major hospitals and so on.

slowturtle|2 years ago

> Hamas is making that very difficult by blending in with the population, putting command centers under major hospitals and so on.

If there's a command center under a hospital, then you don't bomb the hospital. The fact that your enemy is using "human shields" doesn't mean that it's justified to bomb and kill everyone, including the shields. Now every relative and friend of the innocent people you killed has a reason to pick up a gun against you.

Obviously this puts you at a disadvantage. Instead of bombing targets on a screen from the comfort of an air-conditioned office in Tel Aviv, you'll have to send special forces in on the ground and probably take a lot of casualties. But you demonstrate to the civilians that you're not just killing them indiscriminately.

Lord-Jobo|2 years ago

> Israel is doing what it can to limit civilian casualties while destroying Hamas.

You should really read the parent article at the top of the page. It doesn't support this statement and the court ruling was created from a mountain of evidence.

ajross|2 years ago

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aurelien_gasser|2 years ago

Not picking a side or trying to punish anyone, I'm just highlighting that the difference in the number of victims is quite significant. It would be quite a different situation if Israel had killed only sightly more Palestinian civilians than Hamas' did in their attack. Actually, I suspect that this ICJ order would not have occurred, and that there wouldn't be such widespread accusations of genocide.

Aeolun|2 years ago

I think you are reading mmuch more into that reply than is warranted.

It’s simple fact more people have now died due to Israel’s actions.

That doesn’t mean they necessarily need to be punished for it. The international community doesn’t really need to.

If this is anything like the other 10 times Israel did one of their “Let’s provision some extra terrorists” exercises, they’ve already guaranteed that they’ll deal with two or three more decades of the palestinian population hating their guts.

albedoa|2 years ago

I march with left-leaning American Jews. Exactly zero of them are called genocidal colonizers by anyone, let alone left-leaning American progressives.

Since you are asserting the existence of something here, are you able to provide an example?

weatherlite|2 years ago

All Palestinians deaths are civilians by your measures.