[rocgf]

Whatever the truth may be, we now have people testifying in Congress - under oath - that the UFO phenomenon is real. David Grusch has gone through the official whistleblower process in order to make this happen, and there have been private briefings with the ICIG and members of Congress, who have given credence to his claims [1].

So while it's difficult to know what the truth is at this point in time, it's either that aliens are real or there are a lot of nutjobs in the US government.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Grusch_UFO_whistleblower...

[todfox]

Nutjobs have already been proven to exist and are in ample supply. Odds are it's not aliens.

[consumer451]

> it's either that aliens are real or there are a lot of nutjobs in the US government.

I know that at least one of these things is true. I can prove it. I wish it wasn't the boring one.

[gfodor]

It’s actually a false dilemma. They’re real, but they’re non-human Earthlings living here in an environment we haven’t yet discovered or stumbled upon is the option few talk about, fits the full body of evidence better than any other explanation, and would prove most everyone wrong in different ways. So I bet that is what is going on.

Edit: it’s always funny that I get downvoted for just writing a theory out that is a pretty good one, as though you’re supposed to downvote people for this kind of post. People get really upset by this subject.

[Steven420]

Considering how many recent supposed ufo events have been debunked I'd say it's the latter

[beeboobaa]

Nutjobs are literally everywhere

[sdenton4]

Consider the general prevalence of conspiracy theories on the American right - Alex Jones, qanon, stop the steal, etc.

Consider that many on the left avoid jobs in the military, where most of the UFO stuff is coming from.

I'm on team 'lots of nut jobs.'

[4RealFreedom]

Conspiracy theories are a political tool that Democrats and Republicans use on an uniformed audience. It's not just a right-wing phenomenon.

[filoleg]

> either that aliens are real or there are a lot of nutjobs in the US government

Well, they caught David Grusch in multiple factual lies he made during that congressional hearing and called him out on it immediately after[0]:

> Contrary to assertions made in the hearing, the central source of those allegations has refused to speak with AARO.

> Further, some information reportedly provided to Congress has not been provided to the office, Kirkpatrick said, “raising additional questions about the true commitment to transparency by some Congressional elements.”

With his credibility already being questionable, those easy to disprove things don't make his credibility look any better at all. So I am heavily leaning towards the nutjob take on the situation. If we have presidents willing to perjure themselves during a trial, I can easily believe we have a bunch of random government employees willing to make up lies in congressional hearings.

P.S. It doesn't have to be all nutjobs either. All it takes is one nutjob and a good number of opportunistic grifters.

0. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/28/pentagon-ufo-boss-c...