[b4ke]

They should institute a voluntary conscripted amnesty/asylum for those who entered into the country and are on immigration parole. This program could allow for retroactive application to spouses/children (no extended family transferability until completion of service contract).

There would be no need for sign-on bonus, you could add additional qualifications for g.i. benefits in the form of naturalization.

It would really be a net positive as they would be forced to assimilate into our society in a way that is a net benefit at many different layers of the civil stack. The kind of people who are willing to serve the country rather than acting as a sanctioned entitlement case would be a win/win. No?

[atmavatar]

I'm a little worried that if we implement the "service guarantees citizenship" scheme you allude to, we'll be forced to fight a war against an interstellar insect race soon after.

[riffraff]

I giggled at this, but in starship troopers you'd not inherit citizenship.

OP's proposal seem more like what the Roman empire did granting citizenship to conscripted barbarians, which worked or not depending on your perspective.

[b4ke]

No I didn’t say that or allude to it, voluntary conscripted amnesty. They would still have to naturalize as well, and only offer that after a sufficient period of service and all the rigors of training, ait, and actual term.

Do you believe we are not already having an inter-domain/dimensional information war with something of a nature you describe? (Kind of kidding)

[ransom1538]

I feel like "service guarantees citizenship" was debated in 50BC in Ancient Rome. "In this framework, the blood and toil of immigrants won't just contribute to our nation's fabric, but will be the very bedrock of its defense."

We are going dark here.

[drewcoo]

> They should institute a voluntary conscripted amnesty/asylum

Conscription by definition is involuntary.

[b4ke]

I keep hearing about it being military-aged men whom are illegally emigrating to the u.s., and low recruiting would seem like a low-hanging fruit in the form of conscription for immigrants.

I mean it also would afford their actual stations more contract labor in non-military support roles at their posts for their spouses. Also would reduce recruitment costs as you wouldn’t need so many incentives to get em through the door, reduce over-crowded shelters, and the kind of people willing to serve and improve their station are the kind of immigrants we profess to want.

[ben_w]

For the most part, my views on migration are "why do we even have borders?" (And then I look at humans choosing to be all Machiavellian to each other and am sad for a bit).

Given we live in a world with borders where nations try to subvert each other to their own interests, I think training migrants to use weapons you give them is going to be a great way for, say, America to give Mexico a military for free. (As a European, I think this would be hilarious… but more as a plot for a Peter Sellers film rather than as actual news to wake up to).

[tenpies]

> They should institute a voluntary conscripted amnesty/asylum for those who entered into the country and are on immigration parole.

There are ways to do this. The French Foreign Legion is perhaps the most time tested, but the requirements it has also mean that the model is incompatible with US Democrat party ideology:

* Only male recruits.

* Criminal history check, including with Interpol

* Identity must be verificiable with official documents from country of origin

* Health screening including dental, psychological, and fitness. No waivers for anything.

The initial contract is for 5 years. If you make it and re-enlist for an additional contract (usually a couple of years), you can now apply for French citizenship.

See: https://foreignlegion.info/joining/#Requirements