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broscillator | 2 years ago

Cars exist because the need for faster and better movement exists. The process of movement created the need for the invention of the car.

> Talking about consciousness interacting with the brain makes as much sense as talking about movement interacting with a car. It's a process that's running on the brain.

If we follow this logic then "movement is a process that's running on the car."

Cars are a result of multiple conditions, including movement and the necessary material conditions to employ movement in a specific way.

Consciousness is a result of multiple conditions, including mind and the necessary biological conditions to employ mental factors in a specific way.

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fluoridation|2 years ago

Sorry, but I'm unclear on what your point is.

>Consciousness is a result of multiple conditions, including mind

What do you mean by consciousness that's different from the mind? I see the two as synonymous.

broscillator|2 years ago

You're fine to view it that way, it's a reasonable view. My point is to highlight that there's other views.

What I mean is that mind is to consciousness what matter is to the brain. It is a property of the universe, that manifests itself in ways that can form memories, identities, self awareness. But underlying these systems there is pure awareness, in the same way that all matter can be reduced to the same fundamental particles.

In the same way that something like a car or a brain can be made from these same fundamental building blocks, an identity and a self can be made from fundamental mind-properties that are just inherent parts of the universe. They become identifiable as "a person" at a certain scale in the same way that a group of particles becomes "a car" at a certain scale and distance.