[smaccona]

What I do is buy a smart TV, never connect it to the network (thus making it a dumb TV), and plug an Apple TV (or other devices) into it. So far, this has worked - I haven't seen any ads from the TV itself (the apps running on the Apple TV are another story), and it can't phone home about what I'm watching or otherwise doing with the TV.

[TeMPOraL]

> and it can't phone home about what I'm watching or otherwise doing with the TV

Are you sure?

The old idea of giving TVs built-in cellular backup connection is probably still too risky/expensive - dealing with people extracting and repurposing the SIM card with a free (for them) data plan is a hassle. But what about eSIM?

[badwolf]

Why bother with an esim, when you can use something like Amazon Sidewalk, just use whatever nearby Echo or other device to send whatever small data packets

[bigbabybuckman]

Intriguing and possible I suppose; Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. However, I imagine the numbers would show it's unnecessary these days. My humble estimation is that most people, at least in the developed world, connect the TV to wifi for the convenience if available.

[dangus]

Honestly the privacy stuff isn’t even the value proposition, it’s that Apple TVs have great processors that run fast.

Using a typical smart TV or Chromecast is astoundingly slow in comparison. I have no idea how people tolerate it.

Let’s not forget that Apple and apps on the App Store gather plenty of information about you, especially if you aren’t vigilant about settings.

[fzzzy]

put a faraday cage around your house lol