[ftio]

Christian isn’t charging enough! This could easily be $10 or more.

I still grumble every time I use the Reddit app. RIP Apollo.

[dcchambers]

I basically just stopped using Reddit after that whole fiasco. I had already been drifting away for years. The site has changed. It was time to move on.

[midasz]

I still selfhost a libreddit instance for search results but no more browsing

[cookiesandmilk]

I started using Yesterday for Old Reddit. It’s a safari extension which makes old.reddit.com very mobile friendly!

[jjcm]

You can sideload Apollo. It's a bit sketchy, but it's been nice having it back.

[yard2010]

Same here. Twitter as well

[BlindEyeHalo]

In general I would agree but charging $10 for something that can be shut down tomorrow just because google doesn't like it seems a bit much.

[sbarre]

He admits it uses the official embed API, doesn't block or skip ads and generally plays nice with their systems. He's not trying to circumvent anything, he's just filling a gap left by Google themselves.

It would be quite the precedent for Google to shut someone down who is technically playing by all their rules.

(Yes I'm sure the ToS allows them to do this if they want to - but it would be a bad look).

[snalty]

I'm quite liking Winston for Reddit.

https://testflight.apple.com/join/3UF8bAUN

[slg]

Seriously, what percentage of people who just spent at least $3,500 on the hardware would quibble over an extra $5 when it comes to as essential a native app as Youtube?

[blagie]

I didn't buy the hardware, but if I had, I would quibble over the extra $5.

No, seriously. I would.

Here's the basic problem:

* I wouldn't mind spending $10 on something which I know I'm using.

* Most apps sit on my phone unused. Most are horrible. I have no idea before I buy whether it's good or horrible for me.

* I often don't mind spending a buck or two on something to see if I'll use it. $10 is right above that threshold.

* No apps do a decent free trial. I'm busy, so one of the 30-day things doesn't work for me. I'll install it, and when / if I get around to using it, the trial is already done. My life doesn't revolve around the app. Likewise, many apps will limit functionality to where the free trial is basically an advertisement, and I don't see if it's something I'd use.

I think what would work for me (n=1) is:

* The app is free for the first 40 hours of actual use. Or perhaps some annual quota.

* Continuing using it beyond that costs e.g. $20 for something simple like a video player and e.g. $100 for something complex like a video editor.

That aligns incentives right too.

For a video player, I don't think I'd use one without the option for an ad blocker. I'm not getting Youtube Premium no matter how cheap or expensive it is, since I don't think it'd be unethical for me to do so (it's a bit of a broken social contract by Google). That's another story (and I'm not trying to push my values on anyone else).

[spacedcowboy]

Well, I don't really use Youtube, so ...

[sammy2255]

Not everyone is greedy and profiteering

[monkeywork]

While not as good as Apollo the "Dystopia for reddit" (iOS) or the "Red Reader" (android) are both better than the official reddit app.

[pantulis]

Dystopia is excellent not only because it's free but because it is great for people with poor eyesight like myself, allowing for pretty big fonts that are broken on the official iOS Reddit App. The only alternative way I've found to achieve this is to browse Reddit with Safari and use page zoom.

I'm still missing Apollo quite a lot. Narwhal2 is good and comes close but it's not exactly there.

[geoelectric]

iOS has Narwhal 2, as well. It’s got its own subscription to defray the API costs but it’s a reasonable price.

[palla89]

You can sideload without jailbreak, it perfectly works!