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taywrobel | 2 years ago

Without robust and easily scaled infrastructure in place ahead of time, an organic DDOS is one of the most difficult situations to mitigate. Not much can be done in terms of traffic shaping, rate limiting, or bot detection.

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paxys|2 years ago

An HN front page “DDoS” is like 20K hits. This isn't some complex scaling challenge. Any website on the internet should be able to handle it, especially a purely informational one.

o11c|2 years ago

As a reference, 10K simultaneous hits was an achievable challenge back in ...

1999.

px43|2 years ago

This also blew up on every social media and news site as well, not just here.

MrBruh|2 years ago

I had my blog be on the front page for ~6-8 hours racking up 100k+ unique loads. It also managed to survive just fine on a $5 VPS so I would hope that other sites could survive.

caymanjim|2 years ago

I agree. Protecting against DDoS attacks is incredibly difficult. I'm just enjoying the irony of Def Con, the premiere computer security and hacking convention, not being able to handle traffic.

To be fair, I don't think they crashed; I saw a "sorry too much traffic try later" type message. Still amuses me.

komali2|2 years ago

I guess it's funny, but the attendees don't necessarily represent the organizers. The best hackers in the world may be in the building during Defcon but I don't think the Defcon organization itself necessarily employs them.

loriverkutya|2 years ago

To me this means they decided not to handle the traffic instead of can’t handle it.

shadowgovt|2 years ago

Of course, a robust and easily-scaled infrastructure is pretty easy to rent these days...

... if you're willing to trust another company with your data.

colecut|2 years ago

I would trust just about any company with information that I want to be available to the public

ranger_danger|2 years ago

the current way to most effectively get around DDoS seems to be using a proof-of-work based frontend run on as many revolving reverse proxies around the world as you can afford. this is what kiwifarms does. seems pretty effective and a lot cheaper than what the people bankrolling the attacks on them are spending.