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splintercell | 2 years ago

Are Upanishads pantheists or panantheists?

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kragen|2 years ago

they're books, not people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upanishads

espinoza didn't have access to them directly (he didn't speak sanskrit, and as far as we know nobody had yet translated them into any of the four languages he did speak) but of course the upanishads have influenced western thought indirectly since before classical times. the upanishads deeply shaping the worldviews of the gymnosophists and later of the romani people and, to a smaller extent, the medieval european philosophers whose learning derived from the islamic golden age. khayyam, who brought us a new conception of numbers, at least outwardly endorsed sufism, which has profound and well-known connections with vedic doctrines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu%E2%80%93Islamic_relation...

i'm not claiming that the flow of ideas was one-way, and because much of it happened before written history (which began rather late in india) or otherwise outside the written record (consider consultations with romani fortune-tellers today, and try to extrapolate to centuries before gutenberg) it's difficult to tell which direction each idea flowed. but clearly there was an enormous amount of philosophical interchange, and at least some of it

however, espinoza's ideas don't seem to have been especially influenced by the upanishads; if anything, he was going in the opposite direction

midiguy|2 years ago

Interpretations of the Vedas vary widely. Name any 'eism' and you will find groups of Hindus adhering to it.