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firebat45 | 2 years ago

He only said there is no legal "right", not that gun ownership was completely illegal.

The point being, reasonable countries view gun ownership as a privilege that can be lost, instead of a right that cannot.

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defrost|2 years ago

It's a quibble - the base position here in common law is that the people of this state have a right to weapons .. much later the people of this state first agreed that the body they employ to debate common rules would be allowed to argue the regulation of firearms and delegate enforcement of any agreeed regulations to those tasked with the enforcement of policy - the Act grants that right to our employees, the politicians and the police.

After Regulations were agreed upon, these were codified.

The base right as that citizens of the state can have weapons, the agreed regulations (that can be overturned) are citizens with violent criminal records, domestic assault allegations, unqualified in handling, not willing|able to safely store cannot have weapons - these are our background conditions.

The US also has background checks for sale and possesion - they're just weak on enforcement.

The US is an oddity is they felt after the fact of constitution that they had to whack on an ammendment to spell out common law for firearms - but not for explosives, poisons, motor vehicles, etc.

15155|2 years ago

And now you have no ability to take those "rights" back using violence if you needed to.

You do not have the right to own a firearm in Australia regardless of whatever mental gymnastics you want to perform.

- The fact that a forcible confiscation (governments cannot "buy back" something they never owned) campaign could happen at all means you do not have this right. "Give us these items or go to prison or die when we come to take them" - some right you have there!

- If you cannot own remotely the same articles that your police do, you do not have a right to bear arms. You have a privilege to own a limited set of items under a limited set of circumstances - all of which would be useless for mounting violent resistance.

theultdev|2 years ago

Yeah don't want any pesky citizens or colonies standing up for themselves if we go full tyrant.

When in history did we ever need, oh wait...