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"end up being" is not enough of a disclaimer for you?

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No, they’re correct. “End up being” does not imply that you ignore the existing track record. That’s why OP clarified “only if you ignore their existing safety record” - given that other planes have had 0 crashes and 0 fatalities, I’m not sure how the 737MAX could even ”end up” being “safer” even if you ignore existing issues - you can’t get better than 0 issues, so at best it would be as safe as most other aircraft.

ldoughty|2 years ago

A plane that has a perfect track record now may not be perfect from now on.

Meanwhile, a plane with a bad track record right now may never have another incident from now on.

So, the 737 MAX may have 2 crashes now... but every other major plane might have that many crashes (or more) over the next 30-40 years. This would make the 737 Max "One of the safest planes" generally speaking.

DriverDaily|2 years ago

If you want to be pedantic, you're conflating 'having a safe record' with 'being safe.' It's just an indicator.

nottorp|2 years ago

The thing is, it doesn't look like Boeing has learned anything.

stefan_|2 years ago

No, because it can absolutely not end up being that? 2 crashes is already a massive number, who is going to go back and make them disappear?

User23|2 years ago

It certainly isn’t for the folks involved in crash three.