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PrimeMcFly | 2 years ago

This is honesty funny, that you've written this much.

Well, let's get into it!

> Please do not say things like that here. It is "my" thread.

No, it bloody well isn't. The sooner you can accept and understand that, the happier you might be.

It is astounding to me that you don't understand how ridiculous your claim and behavior is in this regard.

> You don't belong here. It's actually against the rules here to be rude and say things without care. You'll actually need to leave this entire forum should you continue.

Again with giving orders that you have no place to give.

> I know you don't care.

Then stop wasting your breath?

> You made a counter claim with zero support.v

You made a bullshit claim with no support at all. You just copypasted the first link you found. That doesn't count as supporting your argument, buddy.

> Then you purported to cite sources

That you thanked me for providing lol. Then you said you don't care enough about the topic to actually look into them. Except now you're in this bizarrely insecure trap of needing to have the last word and not be wrong, so here you are, trying to dispute them.

> since you wanted to go to war on this

I didn't want to go to 'war', lol. It's fascination how you see this interaction. I just called you out for being wrong and not doing any research and perpetuating misinformation, and well, you didn't take that well. You still can't accept it.

> I'd rather have the last word.

Yeah, you've made that clear lol.

> I'm human just like you.

You're also deeply insecure unlike me.

> But you pissed me off enough to make me spend the effort.

Nah. You're still just copying and pasting things without understanding them. The first comment that you previously thanked me for still applies and your paper doesn't dispute anything I've said.

> I'm not even making a pathetic effort to sort of worm my way into being right.v

That's literally all you are doing.

> It's a given that my point is much more obviously the higher supported theory here.v

I mean, tell yourself whatever you need to to avoid taking an L, I guess.

> And you stated you're "I'm open to the possibility that pigs might be smarter than dogs" which is lol. It just shows you couldn't find anything definitive.

Because unlike you I can handle being wrong, but evidence and consensus does not support that point.

> You were being manipulative with your arguments and you know it.

Not remotely.

> Weak sources and a weak thesis as well.

No, my view is the consensus view, actually. Your view is the one perpetuated by people who believe the first thing they read.

> You got upvotes only from people who didn't follow a single one of your sources.

I got upvotes from people who actually read what I wrote and understood the reasoned argument that was made.

> Do you do this kind of thing in real life? Like when you're not sure about something and someone makes a claim about it, you just attack them out of nowhere and demand solid proof when you're wishy washy about it yourself.

When someone is lazy and spreads misinformation I certainly try to gently correct them and if they want to be stubborn, I might try to embarrass them to put them in their place, sure.

> Look man, when I say pigs are smarter then dogs I say it like any human says it.

Not just any humans, but the types of humans who just believe whatever they read first and then defend it because they don't like to be wrong, and then might write long essays of nonsense when if they had just spent 5 minutes of research initially it all could have been avoided.

> The science shows evidence that pigs are smarter.

lol, no, it doesn't. Sigh.

> Tell you what. You may be open to me being right, but I'm not open to you being right

Or to rephrase, you're not open to being wrong. That's been your problem from the start.

> Now throw in your next wall of text and we can continue on this until you run out of things to say because I'm not just right. I'm obviously right.

lol, again, tell yourself whatever you need to avoid feeling like you lost.

> Anyway, the main faux paus here isn't "not doing research" or flawed citations or anything like that. You've done plenty of that despite your hard ass claims to the contrary. The main problem here is you're not acting civil. You're acting rude.

Nah. The only issue that started all this what you adorably think is a 'war', is you perpetuating misinformation and being called out on it. That's it. And I wasn't rude, I was direct, and your ego didn't like that.

> That is Against the rules here and I'm sure if any admin saw you talk this way repeatedly without care you would be banned.

You've honestly been much ruder, barking out order and trying to claim ownership of the thread, which is just sad and ridiculous.

> I admit I am defending my last word now.v

Well you already did earlier, but it was obvious from the start that you were this type of person.

> But prior to this I was not defending my last word.

Sure. Whatever you say.

> If it looks bad, so be it, but I did not act with malice which is contrary to what you did here.

I didn't act with malice I just pointed out you were wrong, that's it.

Anyway. As amusing as this is I don't have the energy for another wall of text so I might make one more reply, maybe, and then I'll let you have the final word so you can feel like you won and this horrible ordeal you are putting yourself through will be over.

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corethree|2 years ago

You called me adorable, you laugh in my face and make dismissive comments. These words are stated by you to start a fucking war. Any reasonable person can see this.

And your counterpoint isn't even charitable. Just a statement of "you're wrong" without concern to my offered evidence, no counter evidence from your end and specifically twisting and picking out specific quotes and pieces to respond to while ignoring the entire paragraph. Manipulative and Classic malice. There's really no point in saying any of this. You know it, your actions are fully intentional.

You're literally the definition of a malicious person.

> I'll let you have the final word so you can feel like you won and this horrible ordeal you are putting yourself through will be over.

Thanks. But you didn't need to say this right? What's the point? Again, malice is literally the only reason. Either way. Finally you are walking away.

PrimeMcFly|2 years ago

> These words are stated by you to start a fucking war. Any reasonable person can see this.

Eh. Is it a war if only one side thinks so and is fighting, and the other is amused?

Your other reply was deleted - I wonder what horrible things it said?

> And your counterpoint isn't even charitable.

It was a nuanced reply explaining the current consensus position and why the idea that pigs are smarter than dogs is a myth, but you have overlooked and dismissed it because you are viewing it through a very limited binary of right or wring, winning or losing.

If 'winning' a silly discussion on an internet forum means such a big deal to you, then I think you need to reevaluate your priorities and do some self-reflection.

> You're literally the definition of a malicious person.

Nah. All I did was tell you you're wrong and call you out for it, and then you got all defensive and uppity after claiming you provided a source and continued to, and still continue to falsely claim you are correct. Why? Because ego. Nothing to do with me being 'malicious'.

> Thanks. But you didn't need to say this right? What's the point? Again, malice is literally the only reason.

Highlighting your need to have the last word because you equate it with winning. This behavior/need of yours isn't exactly knew to us who have been around for a while now.

> Either way. Finally you are walking away.

After this reply I sure am :)

You're going to come back and have the last word because you need to. I hope it fills whatever voids or gives you satisfaction enough to distract from whatever issues are bothering you.

I'm going to ask that in the future you do as I originally asked and do a little more research and not perpetuate misinformation. I know you are going to need to respond with some retort so you can gain what you think is ground, something about not being 'malicious' or whatever, and that's fine. Say what you need.

But even if you can't admit to it or want to act dismissive in your reply, I hope you will do what I ask upon reflection - please don't perpetuate misinformation knowing, due to ego or any other reason. It can be very harmful.

I won't be replying again, and would ask you never reply to me again or initiate a discussion with me, as I prefer not to interact with people who act as you do.

Take care.