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haimez | 2 years ago

Let’s be a little charitable here- having and raising children has been a much, much more dangerous proposition health wise even at your parents generation to say nothing of your grandparents generation.

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dalyons|2 years ago

There’s not a lot to be charitable about in the parent comment. Some poorly researched race replacement bs?

You personally are right, it has never been safer health wise to have children. It has never been more expensive either, win some, lose some.

vidarh|2 years ago

Expensive relative to expectations. Not in terms of what most people could provide.

That's not bad. It's fine that people expect more and want to be able to provide more before having children (and I do agree the commenter who argued this is somehow confined to the Western world is way out there).

But we need to understand that across most of the developed world - there will be exceptions in pockets here and there - it is not the ability to afford children that has dropped, but that we're not willing to give up what we have to have children at a living standard that was considered good before.

E.g. when I grew up we always had food, but the food we had was dictated by cost in a way I never think about, and wouldn't want to deal with. We lived in less space, and I want more space, not less. Our living standard when I was a kid was fine; far above average for most of the world, about average for where I grew up. But if what it took to have more kids was to go back to that, I wouldn't.

The commenter above can call that soft all they want - I don't feel bad for wanting to enjoy life more than I want more children (I have one son; I might well have another child, but because I'm at a stage where my girlfriend and I can afford it without sacrificing our standard of living and that does place me in a privileged position)

ekianjo|2 years ago

more expensive than when? people had nothing 150 years ago and still had kids, mind you