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corethree | 2 years ago

If you want to create a world where there's no bullshit jobs at all then you'd be creating a world where millions are unemployed.

We are rapidly heading in this direction with automation. AI is beginning to fulfill the final step in this process creating a world where 90% of jobs don't need a human.

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lloeki|2 years ago

> If you want to create a world where there's no bullshit jobs at all then you'd be creating a world where millions are unemployed.

With such absolutes we're entering wild hypothetical territories.

An alternative viewpoint would be that no bullshit job => everyone does a humane job with a purpose. Wouldn't that be nicer than breaking one's body or mind for a soulless job, artificially so just to get money to put food on the table? I think we're fairly happy to not have to hunt for food and plant crops.

A second alternative would be that millions (90% so... billions? all?) being "unemployed" would mean (as you seem to imply) they wouldn't get paid (or they would through some flat social revenue) and money would rapidly cease to have any meaning as we understand it.

Both cases converge to a post-scarcity economy[0], one popular example of which is the Star Trek economy[1].

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trekonomics

corethree|2 years ago

Of course it's nicer to give everyone a humane job. It's not about what's nicer. It's about reality. There's simply not enough jobs to go around if there are no bullshit jobs. Your statement here doesn't make sense to me. Yeah it's better but what does better have to do with the realistic consequence? Nothing.

Very little jobs for people with sub 80 IQ which makes up a significant portion of the population. If any of these people hold jobs it's most likely bullshit.

If millions are unemployed that doesn't mean they won't get paid. But if they didn't it doesn't mean money has no meaning. I didn't mention the consequences of that. You did.

All I said here is that if we get rid of all bullshit jobs. Millions will be unemployed. What that means is up to you decide, I simply stated the immediate realistic consequence of no bullshit jobs.