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abledon | 2 years ago

dreams of a time where EU regulates GPU manufacturers into providing a pluggable interface for VRAM on the cards... 2035?

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jsheard|2 years ago

The signaling requirements are way too tight for pluggable VRAM to ever be a thing. If anything we're headed in the other direction, with CPUs losing pluggable memory in order to achieve tighter timings like GPUs do, Apple is already doing it and Intel is set to follow.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-demos-meteor-lake-cp...

sspiff|2 years ago

Exactly. There's a reason these chips are always surrounding the processor (since the 2000s) and why we haven't seen GDDR based plugable memory modules.

For this same reason (timing precision) you see that soldered DDR5 memory often reaches way higher speeds than what's available in DIMM or SODIMM form.

dist-epoch|2 years ago

One could imagine a two deck PCB, where you have another PCB board underneath the main one for additional close memory chip locations with a high density vertical interconnect.

DrNosferatu|2 years ago

Or the EU enforces competition on the AI hardware market by funding an “Airbus for GPUs”.

I would say it’s even more strategic than the original.

dist-epoch|2 years ago

The EU Airbus for GPUs will appear 10 years from now and have the performance of a GPU from two years ago.

DrNosferatu|2 years ago

As with the Concorde, the UK could be included. So this would encompass:

ARM Holdings;

Imagination Technologies (UK) - PowerVR GPUs (mobile, automotive, embedded)

NXP Semiconductors (Netherlands) - GPUs for automotive & industrial

STMicroelectronics (France/Italy) - GPUs for automotive, industrial & consumer

BrainChip (Australia, subsidiary in France) - neuromorphic computing chips (similar to GPUs)

Graphcore (UK) - intelligence processing units (IPUs) for machine learning (alternative to GPUs for some applications)

InCore Semiconductor (Netherlands) - custom high-performance computing (HPC) solutions, including GPUs

Kalray (France) - programmable processors for data centers (alternative to GPUs for some applications)

RISC-V International (non-profit, enables European companies to design own GPUs)

Think Silicon (Greece)

...any others?

lvl102|2 years ago

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wongarsu|2 years ago

EU companies selling in the US have to follow US regulations, US companies selling in the EU have to follow EU regulations. And in both cases, only for activities in the respective market.

For example Apple would be free to sell lightning port iPhones in the US and USB-C iPhones in the EU. Or don't make USB-C iPhones and not sell any iPhones in the EU, if they don't want to be "leeched". Same for Nvidia and this hypothetical regulation for swappable RAM (which is never going to happen because it isn't technically viable)

Cheer2171|2 years ago

If you do business with citizens of another country, in that country, you should expect to have to follow that country's regulations.

Your position is literally American exceptionalism. Do you think that because of NATO that US companies should be able to ignore EU consumer protection laws?

DrNosferatu|2 years ago

The US funds their companies a lot - via the DoD.

The EU is only making it right.