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ttt11199907 | 2 years ago

> Here's this one example, so therefore this is proven bullshit

Nice logic.

What is "a lot" that indicates the majority of tribes didn't understand that babies happen when sex happens? Have you ever heard folk stories or native stories about birth and death?

If you're on an island, having an uncapped population is a recipe for disaster. This much is on obvious. The goal of living isn't to create as many more humans as possible.

It's like you're offended that humans would follow the same natural path as animals where access to resources is finite. Or at least that it is "bad" or "evil" that humans could ever live in a situation where they can't just consume more andore resources

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jojobas|2 years ago

It's not one example, there's plenty. If you want another, Aborigines hunted down everything larger than a kangaroo to extinction.

Aboriginal stories largely say that it's Rainbow Serpent that brings in babies. This more or less matches the pattern of constant hunger that made women infertile outside of a small window around the rain season. It's understood that the rest of the world figured out the link from observing domestic animals, something absent in Australia of the time.

There are multiple papers trying to tackle this non-understanding, including ridiculous propositions that they all kinda know, but "repress" the knowledge.

>If you're on an island, having an uncapped population is a recipe for disaster.

Having to kill your own children is disaster.

>Or at least that it is "bad" or "evil" that humans could ever live in a situation where they can't just consume more andore resources

Yes, it's very much desirable that nobody is hungry, sick, or murdered. Yes, learning to get more resources from what you have is also very much desirable. And yes, it's bad and evil if instead people kill babies and murder each other over food like animals.

Before you ask, yes there are plenty of Aboriginal Dreamtime stories depicting someone stealing food and getting killed.

And there's no counterpart to the Genesis myth that would say that X shagged B and they had a child.

ttt11199907|2 years ago

So the ideal is no one ever dies (most good!) while everyone makes more people (more good!). I guess eventually we'll figure out how to eat rocks. It's not sustainable. Earth is an island that has finite resources. We're covering it in crops to feed humanity, but in the process of doing so are making the planet less hospitable. Should we act now to prevent what we know will happen if we continue pretending like expansion is the only way?