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beebeepka | 2 years ago

I've worked with a number of developers whose output without these tools is a giant, unreadable mess. Training juniors to be reliant on this stuff does more harm (to them) than good.

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bbkane|2 years ago

If I'm reading this correctly, you think juniors should live without formatters because they need to learn to format manually?

I entirely disagree. Juniors have to learn so many more important things - how to logically structure code, testing, working on teams, git...

Why take time away from learning those (and similar) concepts to teach them something a tool does well and, if necessary, they can learn later?

I like it to deciding to teach teens how to drive with a manual transmission instead of an automatic one- they need to be able to drive and not hit things, and the more we can simplify that, the happier we all are. If needed, some kids can go back and learn how to use a stick shift.

beebeepka|2 years ago

> If I'm reading this correctly, you think juniors should live without formatters because they need to learn to format manually?

You did not interpret what I said correctly. Not that you had much to work with, but that small wall of text is based on a major extrapolation.

I said completely relying on these tools is doing them disservice. How do you train your muscle memory when the tools are doing everything for you. I, for one, believe proper formatting is a sign of care and it's really easy to spot when someone is not paying attention.

Go on, mod me down harder.