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kilolima | 2 years ago

They are not usernames, so why do they call them that? They are more like disposable per-conversation identifiers.

"Usernames in Signal do not function like usernames on social media platforms. Signal usernames are not logins or handles that you’ll be known by on the app – they’re simply a quick way to connect without sharing a phone number."

Also, this is not finally the feature Signal users actually want - not having to sign up for Signal with a phone number and using a username instead.

This new "feature" does very little to make signal more secure or private.

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jraph|2 years ago

It does, because instead of having to share your phone number to Signal + all your contacts, you can share it with Signal only. It is an improvement. It doesn't address the case where you are not willing to share your phone number to Signal, but it addresses the case where you tolerate it but would like to discuss with someone with whom you'd rather not share your number.

I hope it will allow creating groups without forcing members to have their phone numbers shared with everyone.

IshKebab|2 years ago

That was my first thought too. It's stupidly confusing to call something that acts nothing like a username a username. They clearly know that given the number of times they clarify how they work. Here's another:

> Note that a username is not the profile name that’s displayed in chats, it’s not a permanent handle, and not visible to the people you are chatting with in Signal. A username is simply a way to initiate contact on Signal without sharing your phone number.

JoshTriplett|2 years ago

It's absolutely a username. It can be changed arbitrarily whenever you like, and you'll probably in the future be able to have more than one name for the same underlying account, but it's still a username.

Other services do this too. For instance, you can sign up for some services with an email, and that's what you use to sign in, and you might be able to find other people by email if they let you, but you don't necessarily get shown someone's email on their profile, just the display name in their profile. And (in a well-designed service) you can change your email address at any time.

XorNot|2 years ago

Because a regular person, being given not a number for something, is going to call it a username.

Later explaining "you can have multiple usernames" is easier then trying to undo that conception. People are familiar with it. Your username is how you identify yourself on the computer in every context when it's not obviously your phone number.

webdoodle|2 years ago

> Also, this is not finally the feature Signal users actually want - not having to sign up for Signal with a phone number and using a username instead.

Agreed. I don't own a phone of any kind, and would love to use Signal, but alas I can't because you need a telephone number, or a level 65 Necromancer to do the magic to sign up without it.

* Magic: https://www.techbout.com/use-signal-without-phone-number-sim...

godelski|2 years ago

Is it? On Twitter and discord people see a different name than my username. Username tends to be more for connection and display name for identification. While I get the argument I don't see why this is a big deal.

vorticalbox|2 years ago

> They are more like disposable per-conversation identifiers.

Why are then not just random when you go to the share screen.

No real reason to let a person pick it

vel0city|2 years ago

The point is to make it easier to verbally tell your friend "I'm vel0city23 on signal, add me" and have them actually remember.

sigmar|2 years ago

Doesn't seem "disposable per-conversation" in my reading of the announcement. Seems like a permanent username that just doesn't get featured in the conversation.

>Your profile name remains whatever you set it to.

mjg59|2 years ago

It's not really permanent - you can change it as much as you want. Once someone has established a connection with you via your username once, that connection will still exist even if you change your username.

afroboy|2 years ago

How to you suggest to fight spam accounts without registering with a phone number?

chrisnight|2 years ago

Why is the defining feature of being human the property of having a phone number?

Spam is indeed a hard problem to solve, but the issuance of phone numbers is not designed to be used as human identification.

drexlspivey|2 years ago

What’s a spam account anyway? If I create a new account per conversation does that count as spam? It puts exactly the same strain on Signal servers.