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jarvist | 2 years ago

The speed of sound does not depend on pressure, only temperature.

I suspect this is occurring because the (sonic) flow through the nozzle cools as it expands, therefore the speed of sound drops, making the same flow now supersonic in the cooled gas.

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sand500|2 years ago

This was interesting so I looked it up

>For a given ideal gas the molecular composition is fixed, and thus the speed of sound depends only on its temperature. At a constant temperature, the gas pressure has no effect on the speed of sound, since the density will increase, and since pressure and density (also proportional to pressure) have equal but opposite effects on the speed of sound, and the two contributions cancel out exactly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound#Dependence_on...

bongodongobob|2 years ago

I never knew this either. This makes sense as when you tap on a propane tank they always sound empty, different than a metal tank of water. Even though it's a liquid and under extreme pressure, it's only the temperature that matters.

AnotherGoodName|2 years ago

Whoa that's something I didn't realize. I always had the intuition the speed was faster in denser materials but you're right that pressure doesn't matter.

The temperature difference does make sense for the same reasons here though!

thsksbd|2 years ago

For an ideal gas. Get close to the triple point of the gas and you better upgrade your equation of state

thsksbd|2 years ago

"The speed of sound does not depend on pressure, only temperature"

Of an ideal gas

foxyv|2 years ago

I think it's just relativity. After all, the gas in the Earth's atmosphere is traveling 29.78km/s relative to the sun (~Mach 85). Inside of the nozzle it doesn't really matter that it's traveling supersonic relative to the air outside the nozzle until it leaves the nozzle.

I don't think the difference in speed of sound will have much effect in any case.