[makin]

Aren't we also machines? If we make theories that discount our own intelligence that's just throwing our hands up and giving up.

Maybe I would agree with you if LLMs weren't already embedded in a lot of useful products. I myself measurably save a lot of time using ChatGPT in such "unintelligent conversations". It's intelligent in the ways that matter for a tool.

[nottorp]

IMO you're using the wrong term or have a low bar for 'intelligence'.

It's reasonably good at reproducing text and mixing it. Like a lazy high school student that has to write an essay but won't just download one. Instead they'll mix and match stuff off several online sources so it seems original although it isn't.

That may be intelligence but it doesn't justify the religious like tone some people use when talking about LLMs.

[joeythedolphin]

I don't know, it's more then this. I ask ChatGPT to teach me all about Hinduism, the siva purana, ancient indian customs, etc., and it is an incredible tutor. I can ask it to analyze things from a Jungian perspective. I can ask it to consider ideas from a non-typical perspective, etc. It is pretty incredible, it is more then a word gargler.