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DamnableNook | 2 years ago

Gavin McInness? Founder of the Proud Boys, Gavin McInness?

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input_sh|2 years ago

Yes, he left Vice over "creative differences" a couple of years before he founded Proud Boys. He wasn't as openly fascist while at Vice, though Vice definitely had to do some damage control over his comments.

billy99k|2 years ago

"openly fascist"

I disagree with you here. Proud boys was originally created out of the need to protect people from the likes of Antifa, which is a facist group.

Most activists/hacktivists are fascists. If you don't agree with them, they cause issue, violence, and/or destruction until they get their way. Opposing groups like this does not make one fascist.

Lots of what Gavin does is satire...which many people apparently don't get or understand.

sanderjd|2 years ago

I would honestly really like to read a book (or New Yorker article, but I repeat myself) about this period. Was he fascist, just not openly, in the early days of Vice? Or was he radicalized later? If he was radicalized, how did that happen?

As loathsome as I find him, he also started two well-known organizations, with very different vibes, but also a through-line you can see if you squint. It must be an interesting story, maybe even an enlightening one.

stcroixx|2 years ago

He didn't just make content for them, he was the original co-founder of Vice in '94.

t0lo|2 years ago

Why ask questions you already know the answer to

ein0p|2 years ago

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