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bhpm | 2 years ago

“Culture War” is a dog whistle for any movie that includes women, gays, or blacks. Notice the comment you’re replying to was written by a throwaway account.

There is no culture war in America. There is only a group of people who feel threatened by the existence of content that isn’t targeted squarely at them. There is only a group of people who are terrified that, if they aren’t the majority voice in absolutely everything, they will end up being treated how they treat out-group members.

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jterrys|2 years ago

I think it's poignantly obvious that there is a shift in making entertainment that is above all, inclusive and preaching, rather than entertaining. This is the most glaring in the context of historical dramas. No, I am sorry, but Victorian English Aristocracy did not consist of Africans, Indians, and Southeast Asians. There were no acceptable forums for the 'yaas queeen slaaayyy' attitudes of today. Queen Elizabeth wasn't black. Hannibal wasn't Sub-Saharan African. These productions don't even try to be historically accurate. They're just minority power fantasies. Poorly dressed up shows with scenarios in which the minorities prevail over the racist white people sensibilities of the day. It's genuinely pathetic.

>Notice the comment you’re replying to was written by a throwaway account.

And this brings up the next point: There has never been a time in media entertainment where both the industry and it's professional critics have been so openly hostile, so fervent, so downright dogmatic in insulting and hunting down their detractors to punish them for holding the wrong opinion. They encourage their audience and supporters to go out of their way to harass and silence anyone who disagrees with their content. The fact that people don't want to be associated with that toxicity doesn't make them cowards or racists. Terms like "dog whistle" have come to be dismissive phrases of any criticism. You are attacking the speaker rather than earnestly trying to address the argument. You are dismissing an opinion because it comes from a throwaway account. Nobody is terrified of your shitty entertainment. They're terrified about losing their jobs because people can't take an insult over the internet and have to make it personal when their favorite manufactured outrage garbage show gets criticized.

throwaway118899|2 years ago

I use a throwaway account because any talk whatsoever about these things is enough to get fired from most left-leaning startups. So deal with it.

Original comment was upvoted but still got flagged, which is evidence of exactly the type of sensitive bullshit I’m referring to.

johnnyanmac|2 years ago

>which is evidence of exactly the type of sensitive bullshit I’m referring to.

disagreement =/= sensitivity. This kind of stuff is what many come here to avoid, because ultimately it leads to flame wars, and half of HN's policies and guidelines more or less come down to "don't flame".

You can talk about such issues without being flagged, but you need to actually talk about them, not mud sling. Maybe not without downvotes, because I'm not going to pretend HN doesn't have its kneejerk topics, but flagging a good 95+% of the time comes for good reason (at least on comments).

johnnyanmac|2 years ago

>There is no culture war in America.

ehh, the culture war is by far the most annoying part of modern internet discussion. Casting it off as "one side if right one side is wrong" is exactly why we have such "wars". No war has ever had a side that rationalized itself as the villian.

bhpm|2 years ago

A war implies there is something at stake. There’s not. Log off. Go outside. Volunteer in your community. Hug your kids. Make love to your partner. And remember these two immutable facts:

(1) The terminally online will always be outraged about something.

(2) You have a finite amount of time on earth and then you’re dead.