[jamesear]

> I feel like it would be a lot more straightforward if people just came out and said that they think piracy should be legal.

I don't think Yuzu advocates are actually advocating piracy.

I think they think an illegal use of a tool should not mean the tool is banned.

"Emulators don't pirate games, pirates do."

I think our echo chamber will surface views amenable to this viewpoint. Emulation news is quite literally hacker news.

But we deceive ourselves with such a bubble, when the outside world doesn't lean our way. Downplaying piracy usage doesn't do us any favours when trying to build an accurate model.

[filleduchaos]

I think you've phrased my point better than I did. What I meant was that to advocate for software like Yuzu to exist necessarily entails defending piracy, because outside of a tech echo chamber almost nobody is interested in an emulator existing for emulation's sake.

To illustrate what I mean...if credible stats were somehow collected and showed that 99% of Yuzu users were using it to run games they didn't pay for, I think plenty of judiciaries at that point would consider it a de facto pirating tool versus a tool that is incidentally used for piracy. If you think that this still doesn't mean that the project should be shut down or fined, then I think it's a lot more productive to advocate for such software to exist even if it's a pirating tool than to try to sell everyone on the idea that it's totally a minority that are using it as such. And I think that would require going back to the drawing board re: digital IP rights.