[olah_1]

> the director and screenwriter have said that it's basically orientalism and ornament and they've gotten rid of it because it's distracting

I honestly didn't notice. The Fremen still seem heavily middle eastern to me.

[bertil]

Amusingly, neither Zendaya nor Javier Bardem are Middle-Eastern, but they can easily play so because skin color works that way. I think the fact that it could just as well be a post-El-Niño Chihuahuan desert makes sense too.

[dragonwriter]

> Amusingly, neither Zendaya nor Javier Bardem are Middle-Eastern, but they can easily play so because skin color works that way.

Well, given the history of the Iberian peninsula, there's likely a little more to it in Bardem's case...

[kragen]

chechnya and dagestan are actually rather far from the middle east, and that's where imam shamil was fighting

[082349872349872]

Shamil also inspired a Hasidic nigun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpUJn7yZnJQ

note how the theme of the Nigun Shamil is echoed by cyberpunk computer cowboys:

> "For Case, who'd lived for the bodiless exultation of cyberspace, it was the Fall. In the bars he'd frequented as a cowboy hotshot, the elite stance involved a certain relaxed contempt for the flesh. The body was meat. Case fell into the prison of his own flesh." —WFG

Lagniappe: my current favourite music video performed by caucasians that references (however unintentionally) Lancaster vs York would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTdXQabTTRg