[astockwell]

Careful, that was literally the exact same selling point of Electroconvulsive therapy 80 years ago.

[caycep]

So...there's a distinction:

Electroshock therapy for behavioral modification in schools: bad

Modern Electroconvulsive therapy under anesthesia: actually effective and arguably lifesaving for severe clinical depression.

[ClumsyPilot]

> Electroshock therapy for behavioral modification in schools: bad

Is that just violent punishment / torture by another name?

[dartos]

Lack of human experiments and anesthesia

[vkou]

If you've got a better treatment for a case of severe depression that's resisted all other attempts at therapy and medication, we're all ears.

If not, I suggest we leave it up to the patients and their doctors to determine whether or not ECT is improving their lives, or not.

[pedalpete]

SAINT protocol tCMS from Magnus Medical https://www.magnusmed.com/

Not available to everyone yet.

[cyberax]

ECT therapy is AWESOME. It can treat depression and mood disorders, and it can help with severe epilepsy.

It was falsely maligned in the "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", because it can _look_ upsetting. However, even when it was done without anesthesia, it caused amnesia so patients didn't remember the procedure itself.

[smolder]

I have someone in my family history that underwent electroshock therapy, and by all accounts was only traumatized and destabilized further by the ordeal. YMMV, I guess.

[DANmode]

So because the patient cannot recall the traumatic events, they're not thought to be experiencing that trauma, or taking lasting effect from it?

[andy_ppp]

I'm reminded of this particularly beautiful TED Talk... https://www.ted.com/talks/sherwin_nuland_how_electroshock_th...