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jraedisch | 2 years ago

So when I think “every important thing in my life is scarce”, that is just incorrect imagination? 11 billion people can live on a lake with perfect child and health care?

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forgetfreeman|2 years ago

Living on a lake is a prestige goal, not a requirement for existence. There is no meaningful scarcity at tier 1 of Maslow's hierarchy.

AlexandrB|2 years ago

I don't see a point in striving for a society where most of the population is only meeting tier 1 needs. That's a human chicken farm, not a civilization.

jraedisch|2 years ago

I love swimming and direct access to "nature". You left out child and health care, too. I do not see how any of these are prestige goals.

imtringued|2 years ago

The paper mentions basic human needs like calories, potable water and shelter. What you are talking about goes way beyond biological needs.

This is the problem with partial abundance and the absolute definition of scarcity. Scarcity still exists even after you have a million yachts. You would have to be crazy to argue that scarcity doesn't exist, but absolute scarcity is meaningless in the face of humans with limited brain sizes.

We definitely have partial abundance. Please don't shut this discussion down because of imprecise language.

globular-toast|2 years ago

It's just massively taking for granted what you have and being a sucker for marketing. Food, warmth, companionship/love, these things aren't important to you?

throwawaysleep|2 years ago

The article seems to define scarcity as a very basic existence. Most would call it abject poverty.