[nyreed]

My problem with Joplin is that on my M1 Macbook pro it really shows how much of an Electron app it really is, in the worst ways. Extreme memory use and UI lag for an application which displays text. That said, aside from performance it's quite satisfying to use. It's very simple and does its job well.

I recently migrated to Obsidian and although the learning curve is steeper, I'm quite happy with the results.

[anonzzzies]

I went from Notion to Joplin for note taking: I drop 1000s of images in a note and annotate them and publish them. Notion crashed all the time; so badly that support apologised and had to delete things for me. Joplin has 0 issues with it; it scrolls super fast, is a pleasure to work with. Also on a m1. I cannot say I noticed any bad behaviour compared to others, included Obsidian.

[theshrike79]

I went from Notion and Joplin to Obsidian mostly because Obsidian stores stuff as regular files on my filesystem and I can easily interact with them with external programs and scripts.

Joplin, while being open source itself, has a "proprietary"[1] storage format I can't be arsed to figure out how to interact with.

[1] Meaning non-standard in this case, Joplin is the only software using Joplin's storage method

[rubymamis]

That’s exactly why I’m building a note-taking app in Qt C++ and QML that is vastly more performant than other note-taking apps[1].

This degradation of software by web apps shows in the lack of optimal resource utilization of even one of the most powerful chips of recent times.

[1] https://www.get-plume.com/

[bleomycin]

Plume looks very interesting! One place I personally find many apps in this category fall down is their ability to handle pdf’s embedded or attached within notes gracefully. This applies to desktop and mobile apps.

This may be a slightly weird use case but I accumulate tons of pdf’s that are often relevant to my notes and want them easily embedded and viewable in a first class way. Obsidian is a great example of how not to handle a pdf locking it to a small portion of the window and not allowing it to be full screened.

Forcing the user to dump all of their pdf’s into something like google drive locked away from the rest of their notes is a crappy experience and h fortunately keeps me using apps like evernote purely for this functionality.

[wkat4242]

Nice that's exactly what I'm looking for, as I use KDE and Qt apps fit in so well.

Will the client side be open source? I hope so because I'm on FreeBSD so you probably won't make a compiled version :)

[neuromanser]

Scrolling in the webpage crashed my browser (Firefox, ios).

[moneywoes]

will the mobile all be fast as well?

my issue is i can’t find a platform with a fast mobile app

it seems they’re all react native

[ToucanLoucan]

> This degradation of software by web apps shows the lack of optimal resource utilization of even one of the most powerful chips of recent times.

A-fucking-men. Web tools are for building web apps, software tools are for building software. I avoid all these goddamn electron things like the plague if at all fucking possible.

Garbage on phones, garbage on computers, garbage on tablets. Garbage.

[ukuina]

Plume looks neat!

What is the pricing model you have in mind?

[vunderba]

yeah, it goes to show you that Electron based apps can be done in a reasonably performant way but it does require extra care/attention as Obsidian is an electron app as well.

I have about 13,000 notes (with embedded media PNGs, MP4s, etc) across 50 folders/subfolders on my Mac M1 and searching across all notes in Obsidian is for all intents and purposes instantaneous (less than a second).

[Liquix]

Does Obsidian feature a way to seamlessly sync between devices that doesn't rely on a propreitary service or external tool (Syncthing)?

[tmoravec]

I sync Obsidian with iCloud Drive and it's been 100% reliable and very fast so far (a few months).

[SteeCee]

Obsidian has a built in sync feature if you pay for it. https://obsidian.md/sync

[stavros]

What's left if you take out "proprietary service" and "external tool"?

[ncrmro]

You can use a plugin to sync to git repo. Folders in obsidian are really folder on disk and. In git.

At this point you could hook up ci for instance to publish a blog folder etc

[tasuki]

Hmm, why not do one thing and do it well? Is there much benefit for each and every app to reimplement its own seamless sync?

[lbotos]

Joplin released an ARM build a few months back -- so if you were using the pre-arm build it was bad, so just throwing this out there for folks who maybe had similar experiences -- make sure you are using the arm build (it should happen automatically now)

Disclaimer: I've contributed to Joplin in the past, and I use it dozens of times a day with no big speed complaints.

[stavros]

I use it on Linux and it's always really snappy and a pleasure to use.

[oven9342]

I wish I could compile those electron apps from source à la FreeBSD’s ports or whatever. I’d rather have the laptop compiling for a few days than using electron

[NoahKAndrews]

How does compiling from source help you avoid electron?