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bhpm | 2 years ago

Wouldn’t it be safer to require all cars to have voice controls? Then the driver doesn’t have to move their hand off the wheel at all.

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focusgroup0|2 years ago

I took a ride with an owner of a brand new BMW with glass cockpit and minimal buttons. He complained to the dealer about not being able to find any of the actions in the endlessly nested menus. The dealer's response: Use voice controls.

He tried it, and it's even worse than Siri in terms of reliability. Absolute unmitigated disaster.

Reason077|2 years ago

I’ve yet to find any car where the voice control works speedily and reliably, unless using Siri via CarPlay.

(Siri is actually pretty great at accurately recognising words, it’s just not always so good at doing something useful with them…)

Even Tesla’s is really bad: “Turn off the wipers” frequently gets interpreted as “turn off the wife please” or other similar nonsense.

arlort|2 years ago

And that's presumably in english, which is likely the language which had the most money poured into having good voice to text and vice versa

dexwiz|2 years ago

Not all drivers can speak. Not all drivers speak in a way a voice control can reliably understand them. Not all drivers are in environments where voice commands can be easily understood, like loud music. If you are driving a car you likely have the ability to push a button.

scaryclam|2 years ago

And even when the driver can speak, use the language, be understood and the voice controls are reliable, sometimes they don't actually want to disturb the passengers sleeping in the car just to crack the sodding window open a bit!

golergka|2 years ago

Not all drivers can use their legs, they have cars specially fitted for them.

AdamJacobMuller|2 years ago

I'm not entirely sure you've ever used voice controls.

I've never had experience with any car voice controls which didn't make me want to drive my car into a divider just to end the pain. Voice controls are so frustrating to use that I'm sure they are more distracting to use than even a touchscreen. I might be able to keep my eyes on the road easier with voice controls, but, my brain is going to be quickly annoyed and focused on trying to suss out why the voice control system is not understanding me, or am I using the wrong phrase, or do I need to put the windows up (impossible for me 6+ months of the year) so the car can hear me better?

It's like trying to pair bluetooth with a non-carplay (or non-android auto -- which I haven't used but heard good things about) with virtually all OEM and many aftermarket receivers. A uniquely frustrating experience which makes me wonder if QA departments at automakers actually exist.

amluto|2 years ago

“Hey car, honk the horn”

“Hey car, signal left”

“Hey car, reverse”

You’re kidding, right? Even if this worked far better than Siri, it’s too slow.

ruined|2 years ago

HEYCARSTOP STOP STOPHEY CAR STOP STOP HEYCAR STOP

*bong* i don't have that answer

bhpm|2 years ago

None of those controls are commonly located on a touch screen, which is the topic of the article.

infotainment|2 years ago

IMO, voice controls are good additional control modality, but not a good primary one, since the discoverability is zero. (And also they're usually just...not very good.)

delfinom|2 years ago

Causing drivers to get road rage because they can't figure out the correct phrasing for voice controls probably also isn't a good idea.

Google Assistant still regularly misinterprets what I say <.<

Not to mention most voice assistants are fucking awful slow in language. It's like they pick a rural dweller as their speech model instead of a city slicker.

Just give me a button instead, it'll be quicker and less distracting.

roywiggins|2 years ago

Being able to honk the horn or turn the windshield wipers on from the back seat would certainly be an interesting feature, especially for people with kids.

resolutebat|2 years ago

On all cars I've driven voice control is not always on, you need to trigger it by pressing a button first.

seattle_spring|2 years ago

"Alexa, honk at this asshole"

"Ok, calling Hank Armstrong"

stevage|2 years ago

Pretty impossible to have a conversation with a passenger then.

justinclift|2 years ago

"Break"

"BREAK!"

"BREAAK!!!!"

"OH GOD PLEASE BRAKE!"

crunch

Problems can occur if it the voice system brakes (pun intended). ;)

Izkata|2 years ago

Instructions followed, car is now broken.

gnicholas|2 years ago

I've heard some of the newer cars have pretty good voice controls, especially on the more expensive models. However, the companies tend to put these behind a subscription wall, which I hate. I don't want my car to be always connected to the cloud. I'll do my navigation via my phone, and nothing else requires connectivity (except perhaps if I had an EV and wanted to schedule charging stops).

timothyduong|2 years ago

I hope you don't have any speech impediments, accents, and english is your first language.

morkalork|2 years ago

Your reflexes are faster than you can speak. At least I hope they are.

mc32|2 years ago

Some reactions are instinctive and don’t require thought.

Imagine mid-sipping a drink and something falls out of a truck… garble garble garble —-crash.

Voice controls in an emergency wouldn’t work unless you require like 500 feet (maybe more) car to car separation. And then you have people with temporary voice conditions (losing voice) and permanent voice conditions (mute/dumb)

culopatin|2 years ago

Like voice control is a reliable method of communication lol. Have an accent? Sorry can’t use your car. Mute? Cough? Lost your voice at a concert? Have the windows down? Come on…