[vld_chk]

Idk, subjectively it feels as end of Apple we all know.

Clear stagnation in terms of innovation; no new fundamental interface (no smart glasses, AVP looks too expensive and too narrow); abandon on car project; AI for Apple is nowhere close to others; sales decrease; Apple Watch sales ban; Epic Games court; DMA — after taking a leading position at the market, Apple clearly fails to offer anything new and instead invest too much resources into protecting their market position.

Wonder what will replace Apple. Will we see a slow stagnation here or radically new interface for human-to-technology interaction is around the corner?

[jesselawson]

Apple has consistently made laptops and development environments that creative types enjoy and admire. It’s too mad our economic system is setup to only care about infinite growth and monopolization at Apple’s size. It’s too bad just “being a great maker of great tools for great people” isn’t possible when you’re publicly traded.

[nozzlegear]

> AVP looks too expensive and too narrow

I bought the first generation and agree with these points, but boy is it really cool tech. I thought it’d be super gimmicky and dumb before I got it, I changed my mind within a couple of hours after using them.

I ended up sending mine back, but only because I bought them to develop vOS apps for it and simply don’t have the time after taking on a new client. I really hope they make a second generation and continue improving on it, I already know I’m going to buy it.

(I know it’s ironic hoping they’ll make more of their fledgling platform after I just sent mine back and potentially helped kill it, but I really loved it.)

[codingcodingboy]

Maybe they should make cars.

[hnfong]

> Idk, subjectively it feels as end of Apple we all know.

You do rationally realize the cognitive dissonance in your subjective feeling, right?

A company that is accused of abusing their market position, competitors trying to break into their platform, isn't an indicator that the company is close to an end at all.

If it were really the end of Apple, you'd see something like "Epic withdraws legal claims against Apple due to dwindling interest in developing for iOS platforms".