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Avtomatk | 2 years ago

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beebmam|2 years ago

> In the United States there is no way to make effective protests, you are immediately detained by the police

Pure fiction. I've been protesting for decades and have not once been arrested or detained by police.

anonylizard|2 years ago

Wow, so you think everyone must have the right to disrupt other people's lives with force? To block roads, to heckle meetings, is a god given right?

If someone wants to be heard, they have like 5 hours after work, an infinite amount of internet forums to spend political battles on, and they can't put their head down at work to just... work?

ParetoOptimal|2 years ago

> they can't put their head down at work to just... work?

Thinking about this in the lens of civil rights:

> Can't I just enjoy my dinner without these black people coming into the diner to cause a scene for their protest that won't make a difference anyway?

Ethics should be considered at all times. So if by putting your head down at work to just work you mean turning a blind eye to ethics I dont care to preserve that right.

ParetoOptimal|2 years ago

> Wow, so you think everyone must have the right to disrupt other people's lives with force? To block roads, to heckle meetings, is a god given right?

Yes, because without it there would be no America, no civil rights act for black people, and women wouldn't be able to vote.

Please block my traffic.

howmayiannoyyou|2 years ago

In the US we effect change by engaging with our elected reps or electing alternatives.

Avtomatk|2 years ago

Alternative 1: Don't tax the rich, don't ban guns Alternative 2: Don't tax the rich, don't ban guns

You really have many options

Chris2048|2 years ago

> unless you stand with some ridiculous little signs and everyone ignores you

What is "effective protest" in your view? Purposefully being a nuisance so you can't be ignored?

Avtomatk|2 years ago

Exactly that, generating discomfort to the ruling class that is the one that makes these decisions (you know, arms companies, resources companies, etc.), because there is no other way in which they will try to listen to you than affecting the profits of their businesses.