[ycombobreaker]

> ... something more like how humans get along with dogs, cats, cattle, insects, or microbes?

There's some MASSIVE selection bias here. Note that we're significantly more capable than anything you listed. Where are the Neanderthals? They're all long dead, because they were credible competition but we were just better.

In a hypothetical scenario of superintelligent or supercapable AI imbued with some physical capability of force, we'd be the marginally weaker species before we hit the threshold of "pet".

[majormajor]

> In a hypothetical scenario of superintelligent or supercapable AI imbued with some physical capability of force, we'd be the marginally weaker species before we hit the threshold of "pet".

I think it's much more likely to be a step function than a gradual difference.

In the world where AI gradually gets competitive with, and then more intelligent than, humans than you have an entrenched power able to recognize this and pull the plug. This is where I see the selection bias - everyone assuming that things like "AI safety protocols for a superintelligence" are something we could rationally even hope to plan. Pre-being-able-to-directly-manipulate-the-physical-world, what keeps a step-change superintelligence from making a joke of your protocols by manipulating its way around it thanks to the squishy humans being dumb and irrational in comparison?

Isn't the doomsday scenario precisely NOT that? Where it gets wildly imablanced humans can even notice? Not "Hitler, but a bit above human intelligence." More like god, who doesn't even NEED humans to maintain its datacenters because it already solved things in robotics and machine->world interaction that humans haven't been able to because it's massively superintelligent?

And like I said, that may not mean "pet" - that's the best case, right? The worst case is ground under their feet like an ant or smaller creature.

[clooper]

AI has no evolutionary pressures imposed on it like humans and their brains so there is no reason to expect it to be an ultra violent predator like humans.

[jprete]

Anything that reproduces with survivable mutations, and consumes resources, is immediately subject to evolutionary pressure. Neither of those require biology.

[p1esk]

AI has no evolutionary pressures imposed on it

Are you sure? https://huggingface.co/spaces/lmsys/chatbot-arena-leaderboar...

Just wait until we start putting these models inside robots, or world simulators, and having them interact with each other.

[realce]

This is not true. Our existence and possible competition are the initial evolutionary pressures. After that's over with, the AI will expand until it discovers others in the environment.

We're the violent psychos here who have had to scrap for our spot in the food chain for a billion years, we have no other way to interface with another dominant species. From the AI's point of view, defending itself from ignorant apes isn't exactly "violence."