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grey413 | 2 years ago

The fourth amendment requires them for search and seizures.

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JumpCrisscross|2 years ago

> fourth amendment requires them for search and seizures

The third-party doctrine muddies this under current law.

gowld|2 years ago

This is what confuses me. NYPD subpoenaed Twitter. Twitter said "no".

I don't understand why Rabbi Copwatch would be involved in fighting the subpoena.

Rabbi Copwatch should sue NYPD for infringing his civil rights by spying on him.

He has nothing to defend against. Under current law, if he doesn't want NYPD siezing papers and effects about him from Twitter, that is not his papers and effects, he needs to stop giving copies of data about himself to Twitter. I don't like that law, but I think that's where the law sits today.

none_to_remain|2 years ago

Can you provide any example of a "warranted subpoena"?

MacsHeadroom|2 years ago

All court orders are warrants. That is the most basic definition of a warrant. So a subpoena issued by the court is warranted. A subpoena not issued by a court but accompanied by a separate warrant for the same information constitutes a warranted search or seizure where failure to comply with said search/seizure by the warranted party (ie. law enforcement) could constitute multiple crimes depending on the circumstances.