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armatav | 1 year ago

You lied about the type of sheep you're bringing in? 5 years by 2 counts.

Kill a guy, that's 10 years.

Yeah seems like a totally rational and not depraved punishment system.

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ceejayoz|1 year ago

Maximum sentences and actual sentences are typically very different. Popehat had an article titled “whale sushi” that unfortunately appears to be offline about this.

Edit: https://web.archive.org/web/20240114090811/https://www.popeh...

tyingq|1 year ago

True, though Federal sentences have much less opportunity for things like early release based on good behavior, etc. You tend to serve most of the sentenced time.

D13Fd|1 year ago

Here are the federal sentencing guidelines for murder:

https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/2023-guidelines-manual/annot...

First degree murder is a base offense level 43. Here is the sentencing table:

https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/2023-guidelines-manual/annot...

You can see way at the bottom of the table that offense level 43 is life in prison even with no criminal history.

Even second degree murder is a base offense level 38, which is 19.5-24.4 years with no criminal history, or up to 30 years to life with criminal history.

georgeburdell|1 year ago

It makes sense if the goal of the criminal code is to disincentivize certain behavior versus the pithy phrase “the punishment should fit the crime”

kaliqt|1 year ago

That is not right at all.

maximinus_thrax|1 year ago

Your comment is factually incorrect. In no universe is anyone getting 10 years in federal court for killing a person.

dragonwriter|1 year ago

> Your comment is factually incorrect. In no universe is anyone getting 10 years in federal court for killing a person.

If you mean “no one will get that much for any criminal homicide”, you are wrong.

But if instead you mean “no one will get that little for any criminal homicide”, you are also wrong, as involuntary manslaughter has a statutory maximum, forget even the guidelines ranges, of less than that.