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s1gnp0st | 1 year ago

I am disgusted by the totalitarian urge which has been normalized by the pandemic. Your trauma is not my problem, and I will not permanently alter my behavior to satisfy your ever-escalating urge to dominate me.

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jMyles|1 year ago

Well put. Though I suspect that the overwhelming majority of the sentiment to which you are referring is being carried by bots and not real humans.

It's a difficult time to be empirically-driven, though hopefully we will come out better for it.

toss1|1 year ago

You think that having no public health measures is data driven? Go read some data. Seriously. Or, just go to pre-1950s graveyards and gather data on how many dead children there were before public health measures. Or look at the data on how the public health measures ran extinct a strain of flu so it is no longer being included in the vaccine formula.

toss1|1 year ago

Yikes, Pandemic public health measures are NOT totalitarian in any way, shape or form.

Totalitarian measures are "TOTAL"; i.e., they encompass all aspects of govt and society.

Public health measures are LIMITED to the scope of the public health threat.

Being unwilling to take even small measures that not only help you but also help your fellow citizens does not make you some kind of 'free-thinking libertarian'.

It simply shows you like to behave like a sociopath, and your statement that a policy idea is a result of "trauma" is an uncalled-for insult, as you intended it (which again shows your drive to prioritize feelings over facts). Seriously, no one is trying to "dominate" you. As if you were that important. Sheesh.

throwway120385|1 year ago

It's not totalitarian. How do you feel about having a sewer hookup or a septic system in your house? Because those things were largely mandated and not by grassroots. With that kind of attitude we'd all be crapping in outhouses and standing in our own poop within a decade.

I agree with reasonable limits to public power, but I think data driven public health approaches are an area where the public should have a lot of power. We've eradicated things like hookworm in part because we have asked people to put shoes on their children and stop pooping in holes in the ground.